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re: Footwear Retailers Write Trump a Letter About Tariffs---some interesting points

Posted on 5/20/19 at 7:09 pm to
Posted by psk_Vol
Nashville
Member since Jan 2012
3676 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 7:09 pm to
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Trumps trade war has good intentions; opening closed and unfair Chinese markets. Taxing Americans to achieve it isn't very smart.


The thing is Chinese firms are being taxed even harder than the poor American wanting a pair of Jordans for $50 bucks cheaper. Funny how our media never tells us about the economic turmoil being felt in China right now. China only understands strength when it comes to breaking down their unfair communistic economic advantages that politicians and wealthy American CEOs have been complicit in slowly creating since the 1970s.

The American manufacture worker and small business owner did not get a say in how "things are now" with this awesome global economy the connected and wealthy elites slowly forced on us. The average American does have a choice in what they buy however. If you buy American made shoes like New Balance, the tariffs mean nothing.

Our grandparents generation committed to ensuring the American economy became the greatest and most efficient economic power the world has ever seen during WW2. What is wrong with Average American Joes championing a new commitment to American made products now?

China needs the American consumer much more than we need China's slave labor economic system. Collectively the American consumer holds the real power over China and their global elite enablers creating this unfair economic unbalance. God forbid Americans start rising up against communist human rights violator China and wealthy big business status quo elites and commit solely to rewarding American companies that make their goods in the USA with American workers.
This post was edited on 5/20/19 at 7:19 pm
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14185 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 7:11 pm to
China is not the only country in the world that can make shoes.
Posted by kbmaverick
Baton Rouge, Maui and Toledo Bend
Member since Nov 2009
924 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 7:13 pm to
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I suspect neither of you have ever made a payroll.


You are what the Chinese call: "Baizuo."
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 7:27 pm to
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I suspect neither of you have ever made a payroll


Sounds like you hedged your bets wrong on the whole "Trump will be out by now on collusion charges." You had the plenty of time to shift out, and you didn't. No one is going to give you sympathy for that. At least not around these parts.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50429 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 7:45 pm to
Screw these slave labor pieces of garbage.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23711 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 7:56 pm to
I note that IB never addressed how to fix the problems that China is causing. Probably because they benefit him.

We should buy and sell elsewhere and letting those bastards wither on the vine is the cure. There are other markets on Earth and over time adjustments will be made and others will pick up the slack more than gladly.

We don't sell them a lot so we can find markets elsewhere.
This post was edited on 5/20/19 at 8:00 pm
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 8:00 pm to
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I’m guessing New Balance disagrees with this letter.

Funny how their shoes are better, and priced the same as Nike.


I’m guessing you are clueless in other matters besides shoe manufacturing.

Try again.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 8:01 pm to
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I B Freeman
quote:

About Tariffs


Didn't read. Down voted. Lol.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 8:02 pm to
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I’m guessing you are clueless in other matters besides shoe manufacturing.


Shoeless? Don't call me shoeless!
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 8:09 pm to
Yawn.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 8:11 pm to
What about yarn?
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 8:17 pm to
quote:

I’m guessing you are clueless in other matters besides shoe manufacturing.

Try again.


Try what again?

They’ve proven that they can make a product in the US, of equal or better quality, for the same price as their competitors that mfg products in Asia.
This post was edited on 5/20/19 at 8:20 pm
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
10295 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 8:19 pm to
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I suspect neither of you have ever made payroll

They may not have but I surely did for 38 years in transportation . I can attest to the lower rates that were derived by freight to the west cost by all of the shite coming out . Both trucking and rail car rates were driven down ( by more than half from 90’s to now ) where actual cost basically equal income . If Americans still produced products as they did prior to say 1985 , the cities , their coffers and the population would not have been decimated to ruinous conditions they are in . To say companies chased higher margins I can appreciate but at what cost to fellow Americans ?
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 8:19 pm to
quote:

I’m guessing you are clueless in other matters besides shoe manufacturing.

Try again.


Try what again?


Your whole post since you got it almost completely wrong.
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 8:20 pm to
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They’ve proven that they can make a product in the US, of equal or better quality, for the same price as their competitors that mfg products in Asia.


Doubles down on stupidity. Lol

Do some basic research. Lol
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 8:21 pm to
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Your whole post since you got it almost completely wrong.


Okay. I’ll play. What’s wrong about it?

Or is this where you post the gotcha that not all of NBs shoes are made in the US or UK?
This post was edited on 5/20/19 at 8:23 pm
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 8:29 pm to
I already told you. Almost all.

Not all: lol.

Go ahead. Post your data on NB made in the states. This should be good.

And post the price of a shoe made in here, let’s say the 996. Then you tell us how that is competitive.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 9:13 pm to
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Sounds like you hedged your bets wrong on the whole "Trump will be out by now on collusion charges.


What are you talking about?
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 9:14 pm to
Uhhh what do you want to do to address whatever the problems are you perceive to be?

How many of you trumpkins have read the 301 directive????
Posted by 4Ghost
Member since Sep 2016
8518 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 9:16 pm to
Do you Redwing, Baw!
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