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re: Fmr. CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield: Jab Should Not Have Been Called a vaccine

Posted on 2/2/26 at 6:27 am to
Posted by Gifman
Clearwater Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2021
18886 posts
Posted on 2/2/26 at 6:27 am to
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Damn, I had a lot of people moaning out my name in this thread. He's wrong. Believe him if you want, but he is still wrong.


Did you get a booster this year?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 2/2/26 at 11:12 am to
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You were in favor of a global mandate iirc.


Nope. I correctly pointed out that the only way a vaccination strategy based on a narrow molecular profile would work is if there was a global rollout. If you recall, I said that any piecemeal strategy was going to prolong the pandemic. It was one of the first pieces of commentary I did on vaccination on the board and I might have been talking to you directly in response to a query you made. It was a critique of the vaccination strategy chosen, not support of it.

Instead of posting cute gifs, you can just read my posts. I was direct on what I thought and literally nothing, no evidence at all, has been offered to make me question anything about the pandemic. Several experiences I’ve had over the last few years have reinforced my views.

This post was edited on 2/2/26 at 11:15 am
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 2/2/26 at 11:13 am to
Cope
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 2/2/26 at 11:16 am to
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Did you get a booster this year?


Yes and then I gave one to your big fat gay dad. You dumbasses have got to do better when you guys beg me for a response.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65404 posts
Posted on 2/2/26 at 11:21 am to
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Cope
What am I coping with? You're the one whose dick has been knocked in the dirt.
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He's wrong. Believe him if you want, but he is still wrong.
Is not an argument and it sure isn't evidence.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26494 posts
Posted on 2/2/26 at 11:22 am to
Redfield is exactly right.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 2/2/26 at 11:26 am to
Let’s be real, you wouldn’t be able to follow an actual argument. I’ve provided several on several topics in immunology and oddly enough what people somehow remember is only things that they want to believe. Case in point, jimmy the leg confusing a critique for support. And oddly enough, no one has challenged me on immunological grounds.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
10082 posts
Posted on 2/2/26 at 11:32 am to
'vaccine strategy'. Hilarious.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 2/2/26 at 11:32 am to
There he is, my little fake immunologist.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65404 posts
Posted on 2/2/26 at 11:36 am to
blah blah blah and then the former CDC director said you were a stupid fig.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 2/2/26 at 11:37 am to
Lol, the dude said a vaccine was more like a medication. Which begs a very specific question. Can you complete the conditional, little dude? Why is what he said idiotic? Tease it out for me.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138899 posts
Posted on 2/2/26 at 11:39 am to
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Fmr. CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield
Redfield lost all credibility when the CDC contaminated every test kit in the US inventory in Jan/Feb2020. That catastrophe ensured we had less CV19 test kits available in the US at the start of the pandemic than did Honduras. It was IMO the most cataclysmic single error in the history of US medicine. The CDC fiasco led directly to "15 Days to Slow the Spread" and the empowerment of Fauci.

As I've said, the entire operation at the CDC was either criminally stupid, or it was deliberately sabotaged. In the aftermath, even a marginally competent leader would have set heads rolling. Redfield did nothing. He was either one lost buffoon, or he was part of the cabal.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65404 posts
Posted on 2/2/26 at 11:43 am to
Tease out your boyfriend's a-hole, clown. Why don't you go explain it to the way more qualified individuals who disagree with you?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 2/2/26 at 11:46 am to
Oh, little dude needs someone else to do the thinking for him. Sad. Maybe you should think as to why so many of these retards were moaning out for me and put two and two together.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
5120 posts
Posted on 2/2/26 at 11:47 am to
Smart people knew it was not a vaccine.

BIDEN: “You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.”


And please know, the people who down vote this, are most likely masked while they click the down vote.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26494 posts
Posted on 2/2/26 at 11:52 am to
What Redfield says here is pretty much what Sweden did and things worked out well for the Swedes.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65404 posts
Posted on 2/2/26 at 11:57 am to
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needs someone else to do the thinking for him
Yeah, I don't have a moment to go off to med school, etc. and come back.

I listen to qualified professionals for all kinds of things. You, on the other hand, don't want to have those discussions. You'd rather come on here and spout your condescending bullshite because you know you'd get slapped down in a professional or academic setting.

That's why you like to call people 'little dude.' Because that's you, and everyone sees it.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 2/2/26 at 12:09 pm to
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You, on the other hand, don't want to have those discussions. You'd rather come on here and spout your condescending bullshite because you know you'd get slapped down in a professional or academic setting


I’ve had these discussions plenty of times here. I am extremely qualified to talk about immunology and medicine. Redfield is wrong to call it a medication. Like completely wrong. Even in an analogous sense. It is a vaccine, but like I said at the time, literally in late 2020 or early 2021, that using a narrow molecular profile, as in literally covering just the spike protein and not other antigenic portions of the virus’s morphology, was going to prolong the pandemic. I was completely right in that regard. I said at the time it was a bad strategy and that you had to upend the disease control strategy of earlier diseases like smallpox and measles because COVID does not have a pathognomonic sign.

The difference between Redfield and I is just the fact that he is older. The argument he makes here is not accurate. The vaccine is not ‘more like a medication’ because it does not treat any condition. Its lack of effectiveness is based on its narrow molecular profile, which again is something I pointed out years ago. If you want to believe him and continue thinking his credentials outrank mine for some reason, be my guest.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65404 posts
Posted on 2/2/26 at 12:15 pm to
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I am extremely qualified to talk about immunology and medicine.
sure you are.
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Redfield is wrong
Cool, go tell him that. Get video.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 2/2/26 at 12:16 pm to
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sure you are.


You poor thing.

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Cool, go tell him that. Get video.


And then what?
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