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re: Florida principal reassigned after he told parent he 'can't say the Holocaust is a factual

Posted on 7/8/19 at 8:59 pm to
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 8:59 pm to
I don't remember McCarton's opinion on circumcision, but Rex and CT would provide some quality Antisemitic rants based on nothing more than the secret shame of their own penises.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:02 pm to
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, but Rex and CT would provide some quality Antisemitic rants based on nothing more than the secret shame of their own penises.



Rex had more to be ashamed of than his penis.

Posted by Sayre
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:04 pm to
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Dachau,


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None of those were death camps



American soldiers smelled it for miles before they got to it. Some of the summarily executed some of the guards. Should have killed every single one in my estimation.

This is a death camp.
Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:12 pm to
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Carton is solid on topics that do not involve Jews.


It’s his personal Batsignal.
Posted by MrCarton
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:16 pm to
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It’s his personal Batsignal.




That's fair
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:21 pm to
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MrCarton


Care to weigh in on circumcision?
Posted by MrCarton
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:22 pm to
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Care to weigh in on circumcision?



Cut it out man!

Jkjk, circumcision is Jewish ritual genital mutilation. Next question tho.

This post was edited on 7/8/19 at 9:23 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:22 pm to
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That's fair



You know we still love you, right?

Just not on this particular topic.

ETA - :nohomo:

(NTTAWWT)
This post was edited on 7/8/19 at 9:23 pm
Posted by MrCarton
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:23 pm to
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:35 pm to
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So, we know, for a fact:

1. The Holocaust happened. We have records, physical evidence, dead bodies and eyewitness accounts.

2. The 6 million for the Jews are based on reasonable estimates based on pre-war census figures and the fact that most of the Jews from the territories Germany occupied during the war were killed. Some got out, but we have reasonable estimates on that.


The records, physical evidence, and dead bodies show that nowhere near 6 million were killed. Faulty and biased eyewitness accounts are not reliable sources of information. It is claimed that the Einsatzgruppen killed over a million people on the Eastern front yet no mass graves that would indicate anything close to it have ever been found.

There is also other evidence that the 6 million number is merely propaganda.

The World Almanac listed the number of Jews as:
1933: 15,315,000
1938: 15,748,091
1947: 15,690,000
1948: 15,753,000
They later revised their numbers to show 16 million prewar and 10 million postwar. A difference of exactly 6 million. Interesting. No Jew anywhere else in the world must have died during that time period.

The International Red Cross Report in 1948 showed 272,000, only half of whom were Jews, died in concentration camps. German records (researched by historian David Irving) show about 1.2 million exterminated in the death camps. Based on the actual documented evidence that has been accumulated, the Holocaust death toll is around 1.5 million. To get any number significantly higher than that, you have to rely on hearsay and exaggeration. Professionals (historians, crematorium operators, etc) have shown that it is impossible to reach the 6 million number through the methods attributed to the Nazis.

So why 6 million? Has it been mentioned before?

1850: Christian Spectator - There are 6 million Jews in the world
1869: New York Times - There are 6 million Israelites
1891: NYT - about 6 millions persecuted Jews in Russia
1901-1911: NYT & Chicago Tribune - 6 million oppressed Jews in Russia mentioned multiple times
1914-1917: NYT - 6 million Jews living in the warzone, nearly 6 million Jews have been ruined, 6 million Jews need your help
1918: NYT - 6 million souls need help to resume normal life
1919: NYT - 6 million Ukrainian and Polish Jews in peril and are going to be exterminated
1919: NYT - poverty, starvation and disease for about 6,000,000 souls, or half the Jewish population of the earth
1919: American Hebrew - six million human beings are being whirled toward the grave
1920: NYT - typhus menaced 6,000,000 Jews of Europe
1921: NYT - Russia’s 6,000,000 Jews are facing extermination by massacre
1924: NYT - over 6,000,000 Russian Jews neglected
1933: NYT - people in America have to charge to preserve German Jewry, where 6,000,000 Jews are involved
1936: London Times - 6,000,000 unwanted unfortunate Jews without a future
1936: NYT - tragedy of at least 6,000,000 ‘superfluous’ Jews in Poland, Germany, Austria
1937: NYT - five to six million Jews in Europe are facing expulsion or direst poverty
1938: NYT & London Times - Persecuted Jews seen on increase, 6,000,000 victims noted, depressing picture of 6,000,000 Jews in Central Europe, rising tide of anti-Semitism in Europe has deprived more than 6,000,000 Jews and non-Aryans of a birthright, the problem now involved some 6,000,000 Jews
1940: London Times & NYT - the fate of 6,000,000 people was in the balance, Six million Jews are doomed to destruction (The Final Solution had yet to be implemented. Are they soothsayers?)
1942: NYT - Himmler has uprooted approximately 6,000,000 human beings, one million reported dead with the remainder of the 6,000,000 to 7,000,000 at risk, death toll reported as 2 million, representing one third of the 6,000,000 in Hitler’s domain
1943: London Times - Hitler intends the extermination of some 6,000,000, Two million are dead and the four million left to kill are being killed according to plan
1944: NYT - Five and a half million Jews in Europe are reported to have been put to death, 5,500,000 Jews had been killed in Nazi controlled countries (2 months before the first camp was even liberated)
1945: NYT - 6,000,000 Jews Dead (before the war had even ended)
1945: UN War Crimes Commission - "It has, however, been calculated that in all about six million Jews were deliberately slaughtered" (that's an awfully accurate assessment considering the last camp liberated by the Allies was only 4 days before)

So, 6 million Jews suffering in Russia. 6 million Jews suffered in WWI. 6 millions Jews persecuted before WWII. 6 million Jews under Hitler's control at risk. 6 million Jews perished in the Holocaust.

Every single Jew in German territory during WWII died?

If I was a skeptic, I would say that the number 6,000,000 (or 6) has some kind of significance.

Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:37 pm to
Moved to board office. Keeps pay. Keeps retirement. No longer has the stress of being responsible for thousand plus students. They really showed him!

Note: Did not read link or nary a post if this has been covered .
This post was edited on 7/8/19 at 9:38 pm
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:37 pm to
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:53 pm to
This guy should not have been removed from his position. He didn't say that the Holocaust didn't happen. He merely said that as a public official he can neither support nor deny the contentious event.

quote:

But I'm sure he's all for slavery reparations.


Considering he said that he does the "same with information about slavery," I would not make that assumption.

Why can people in the "free world" question any other atrocity without persecution except this one? A journalist can say that the Armenian genocide didn't happen. A professor can say the death toll of communism is exaggerated. But if you agree that the Holocaust happened but that the number of victims was not 6 million, you will get fired and/or sued. In most Western countries outside the US, you will even be arrested. The protection given to the Holocaust is ridiculous and antithetical to freedom. We will never know truth without the ability to question narratives.
Posted by Caplewood
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 9:55 pm to
But muh six gorillion
This post was edited on 7/8/19 at 9:55 pm
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 10:01 pm to
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Unfortunately, the Nazis were stupid and didn’t think things out and when they started to lose the war supplies were pulled

who would expect that the allies would bomb the railway lines to these camps
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 10:04 pm to
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Eh. There’s plenty of actual anti-Semitic sentiment out there.

This. A lot of anti semites don't even want to fight wars in the middle east for israel
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 10:05 pm to
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This. A lot of anti semites don't even want to fight wars in the middle east for israel



Posted by MrCarton
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 10:16 pm to
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lot of anti semites don't even want to fight wars in the middle east for israel


It's true. This is basically the #2 sign of antisemitism. #3 is holocaust denialism. Surprisingly, #1 is European ethnocentrism*.

All stats taken from Pew.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 10:21 pm to
quote:

Every single Jew in German territory during WWII died?


No. Some got out. "Only" about 80% of Dutch Jews were killed for example.

You got me.

quote:

Based on the actual documented evidence that has been accumulated, the Holocaust death toll is around 1.5 million.


Wow. Some fricking progress in this thread. So, you concede that well over 1 million were killed.

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the 6 million number is merely propaganda.



So, what is 1.5 million? "Better", I suppose.

Hell, some estimates have the death toll just at the Auschwitz complex to have topped 1 million and Treblinka 2 approached 1 million. That's 2 facilities (Auschwitz was about 40 sites in total).

I have no idea why 1.5 million is "no big deal". But, many estimates put the number much, much higher, with the consensus being in the 5 to 6 range.

And how do we count bodies that were cremated?

Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 10:26 pm to
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It's true. This is basically the #2 sign of antisemitism. #3 is holocaust denialism. Surprisingly, #1 is European ethnocentrism*.


#4 is "Anteater schlong"
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