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re: Florida principal reassigned after he told parent he 'can't say the Holocaust is a factual

Posted on 7/9/19 at 7:26 am to
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 7:26 am to
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Does he feel the same way about the theory of evolution?


The article suggests he takes the same position on slavery, which is ludicrous on its face.

In that case, don't teach history at all, because who really knows what actually happened in the past, right?
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 7:27 am
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 7:30 am to
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Where do you guys get this stuff from?


Storm Front.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 7:34 am to
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In that case, don't teach history at all, because who really knows what actually happened in the past, right?


If only we had written records of things that happened in the past...
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 7:46 am to
It's not hard to figure out why, in one instance a group of people were the victim and in another they were perpetrators.

One instant is the most talked about in history and the others are covered up....
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:19 am to
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It's not hard to figure out why, in one instance a group of people were the victim and in another they were perpetrators.


And, let's talk about that, specifically the Bolsheviks (obviously Marx was ethnically Jewish. Engels was not).

Lenin wasn't a Jew. He was a Great Russian. Stalin wasn't a Jew. He was a Georgian (actually studied to be an Orthodox priest, FFS). Who knows what Bogdanov was?

Trotsky was a Ukrainian Jew. Iron Felix was Polish of mixed Jewish and Polish aristocratic stock.

Only about 1 in 20 Bolsheviks was a Jew.
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 8:22 am
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:56 am to
Ok lets go with your tack, why do you think the media is silent on communist atrocities?
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:11 am to
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why do you think the media is silent on communist atrocities?


I've made no secret that I believe that there was a concerted effort to infiltrate and subvert every area of American life. Education, academia and media are your absolute musts.

They're "fellow travelers", so to speak, so they do not want to shed light on Soviet atrocities because they want a perfected form of communism here.

Nazis are always the boogeymen because they were anti-Communist.

But, the whole "Jewish Conspiracy" thing always rang hollow with me. Barry Goldwater was ethnically Jewish. Ben Shapiro is ethnically Jewish. Mark Levin is ethnically Jewish. Many high profile Jews are adamantly anti-communist. And many communist leaders are decidedly not Jewish.

I'm not hiding any cards.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:15 am to
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Are we going to talk about the holocaust forever every day?


Yes?
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:17 am to
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Are we going to talk about the holocaust forever every day?


No. Only when folks deny a provable historical event.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:17 am to
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Was this asinine assertion a breach? If so, are there procedural steps that precede termination, and is the reassignment simply a short-term solution?

His contract for the next year has likely started already. He may even have a two year contract. It might cost as much to fire him as to keep him.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:22 am to
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He may even have a two year contract. It might cost as much to fire him as to keep him.


I hate to laugh, but the first thing I thought, "Just like a football coach."
Posted by lowhound
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:37 am to
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airlinehwypanhandler


My grandfather did liberate a concentration camp. He took pictures and only showed them to us once. Could barely even talk about it because he was so choked up from what he saw. It's the main problem with proggies trying to remove confederate statues and rewrite the history books. If you don't learn from history, then you're doomed to repeat it.
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 9:40 am
Posted by lowhound
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:43 am to
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airlinehwypanhandler


I bet you're fun at a bar mitzvah
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:46 am to
There’s definitely some similarities.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:08 am to
The Holocaust is factual because we've got tons of eye witness accounts and photos.
However, re: your quote....

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For me, I think the 6 million figure for the death toll is exaggerated.


There are reasonable doubts about the number for two major reasons:

1. After the war some people who could not be accounted for were attributed to death camp extermination by their closest family members. War is chaotic. There are lots of ways for people to die and their fate is never found out.

2. The ethnicity of dead individuals is not always clear. My grandmother was Jewish. If I were executed in WWII would I count as a Jewish victim?
The Nazis didn't let you keep your copy of the family tree while incarcerated. If 100 people were gassed at a camp yesterday and 90 were Jewish along with 10 gypsies do you think the distinction was made in gathering post war statistics?

It's a very inexact science.
Posted by MrCarton
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:13 am to
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The Holocaust is factual because we've got tons of eye witness accounts and photos.


The holocaust is a brand. "Facts" have absolutely nothing to do with it. If they did, then the dozens, hundreds, or thousands of completely fabricated first-hand accounts would actually do damage to the brand. Instead, they bolster it. The "Holocaust" is an Anti-White meme.

War time atrocities can never be discussed in earnest until this meme dies. In the long run, this (brand) is to the benefit of nobody, and the backlash against the libelous meme is happening right now.
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 11:15 am
Posted by MrCarton
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:18 am to
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But, the whole "Jewish Conspiracy" thing always rang hollow with me. Barry Goldwater was ethnically Jewish. Ben Shapiro is ethnically Jewish. Mark Levin is ethnically Jewish. Many high profile Jews are adamantly anti-communist. And many communist leaders are decidedly not Jewish.


So Jews play an extremely prominent role in all sides of sociopoltical issues?

Nothing remarkable to see here. It must be the high IQs.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:22 am to
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So Jews play an extremely prominent role in all sides of sociopoltical issues?


So do folks of European extraction.

So do people with money.

So do people with a particular combination of intelligence, charisma and opportunity.

None of that makes any of these things a "conspiracy."

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Nothing remarkable to see here.


Agreed.

quote:

It must be the high IQs.


Probably a factor. (There are some dumb Jews, though, )
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 11:23 am
Posted by MrCarton
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:28 am to
Jews have a cultural and religious tendency towards a very strong in-group preference, and ideological disagreements on other issues take a back seat to that preference in most cases.

Conservatives would call this "identity politics" if it were a trait of any group other than Jews.

Posted by MrCarton
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:30 am to
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Probably a factor. (There are some dumb Jews, though,


The IQ advantage is real, but not nearly as dramatic as most believe. It's also not the most important characteristic of their group. That honor belongs to strong in group preference, which is why Jews remain a distinct group even among other people of high IQ.
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