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Posted on 7/11/19 at 11:52 am to Godfather1
quote:We set the table he eats at.
Not following you here, Rob.
It’s the taxpayers’ fault that this guy is a piece of shite?
Our entire approach to policing traffic is an absurdity. We literally have hired an entire force of people to basically frick with us on the roads despite REPEATED studies showing that they have basically zero real effect on traffic safety.
Hell, it was in one of the Dakotas where they experimented taking away stop signs at 4 way stops and FEWER accidents occurred!! LOL
Oh, and on top of that, we made it a REVENUE PRODUCER!!!
Our traffic laws have effectively become nothing more than a sideways tax on citizens that also affords the state the ability to detain and if not search, at least "check" on its citizens basically at will.
This guy, while obviously a total piece of shite, was also COMPLETELY predictable in this environment.
And WE asked for it.
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 11:54 am
Posted on 7/11/19 at 12:00 pm to Strannix
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30 years is not nearly enough IMO, life without parole, this man ruined peoples lives.
This is one case where I support public execution.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 12:30 pm to Strannix
True. I am an overall defender of LEO in all allegations unless from some unassailable source.
This kind of stuff makes my blood boil. Life sentence - or at least until after all victims are made whole. Their families should be impacted until they repay all victims expenses.
All with HUGE punitive damages.
Make this kind of shite so toxic nobody will risk it.
This kind of stuff makes my blood boil. Life sentence - or at least until after all victims are made whole. Their families should be impacted until they repay all victims expenses.
All with HUGE punitive damages.
Make this kind of shite so toxic nobody will risk it.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 12:45 pm to Strannix
quote:My guess is the drug war police culture incentivizes officers to make as many drug busts as possible, either through awards, rewards, and/or fast tracking career advancement.
Asked by reporters why Wester would do this, State Attorney William “Bill” Eddins of Florida’s 1st Judicial Circuit said that was a good question. Investigators were still trying to figure it out themselves, he said.
Disclaimer- Obviously most cops don't stoop to this level. Not saying that.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 12:47 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:Sadly, two simple things would dramatically solve a HOST of traffic stop problems
My guess is the drug war police culture incentivizes officers to make as many drug busts as possible, either through awards, rewards, and/or fast tracking career advancement.
1. Eliminate.......I MEAN ELIMINATE the govt revenue incentive
2. Reduce traffic enforcement personnel by half(which, to be honest, would occur once you did #1)
Posted on 7/11/19 at 12:50 pm to vuvuzela
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I wonder how they caught him?
A prosecutor started noticing inconsistencies in his reports, and also noticed his body cam was off when he was searching vehicles. He f'd up and left it on during one search and it kind of snowballed from there.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 12:52 pm to ShortyRob
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This guy, while obviously a total piece of shite, was also COMPLETELY predictable in this environment.
I'd say it's definitely inevitable that you'll have people operating in this manner. Which is why the penalties need to be as severe as possible.
He is facing 52 counts and that's just what the prosecution felt comfortable prosecuting. I'm sure he is guilty of A LOT more than that.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 12:55 pm to Strannix
I worked a case one time where an officer planted a sack of weed on a (good) kid because the kid was starting over his son on the high school ball team. The willful deprivation of a citizen’s freedom should carry a life sentence. All other willful crimes committed in the line of duty should carry double the sentence for officers as they do for citizens.
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 7/11/19 at 12:59 pm to MeatCleaverWeaver
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I worked a case one time where another officer planted a sack of weed on a (good) kid because the kid was starting over his son on the high school ball team.
That is one of the douchiest things I've ever read. What was the ultimate outcome of this? Did Cop Dad do time?
Posted on 7/11/19 at 1:03 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
The best I recall he just got probabtion and forfeited his POST certification. Sickening, I know. No evidentiary problem - had a confession, so no reason to sell out like they did..
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 7/11/19 at 1:11 pm to MeatCleaverWeaver
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and forfeited his POST certification.
He can't be a cop w/o this, can he?
Posted on 7/11/19 at 1:20 pm to BamaScoop
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If I went to prison over that I would find him and stomp his arse before he went to prison.
You wouldnt need to do that. His life will be short in prison.
They should just go ahead and measure him for a coffin.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 1:22 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
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He can't be a cop w/o this, can he?
No and a voluntary surrender is most always part of a plea deal on a LEO.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 1:24 pm to BobABooey
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If only those drivers kept their hands on the steering wheel and said “yes sir.”
How stupid.
Yes sir you can search my car!
Idiot.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 1:34 pm to alphaandomega
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His life will be short in prison.
In Georgia there’s a special prison for non-violent LEOs and public officials, so this conception makes for good television, but it really isn’t reality - here, at least.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 1:49 pm to dakarx
I was randomly stopped on I-10 in Beaumont back in my naive days for out of state plates, traveling alone in an obvious rental car by a crew with a drug dog. They went bonkers when they realized I had minimum luggage and asked if I minded an auto search. I called my atty in Houston who was out and waited 30 minutes by the road. It was cold and I had important business later that day so I told them to go ahead. The dog found nothing and I left. My lawyer went crazy. People rent vehicles and drive and do dope and the cars have residue! And the drug crew in Beaumont-Orange are notorious for planting drugs that get you a huge fine and 5-10 years. Don't trust anyone. Just tell the truth and never give anyone access to your vehicle until you talk to counsel was his advice.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 2:20 pm to jimdog
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I was randomly stopped on I-10 in Beaumont back in my naive days for out of state plates, traveling alone in an obvious rental car by a crew with a drug dog. They went bonkers when they realized I had minimum luggage and asked if I minded an auto search. I called my atty in Houston who was out and waited 30 minutes by the road. It was cold and I had important business later that day so I told them to go ahead. The dog found nothing and I left. My lawyer went crazy. People rent vehicles and drive and do dope and the cars have residue! And the drug crew in Beaumont-Orange are notorious for planting drugs that get you a huge fine and 5-10 years. Don't trust anyone. Just tell the truth and never give anyone access to your vehicle until you talk to counsel was his advice.
You got stopped. They asked consent. You consented. They found nothing and let you go. Your lawyer subsequently told you you’re stupid.
Why do I find this post anti-climatic. I was waiting on the part where you did 10 years picking vegetables on a prison farm in east Texas.
ETA: And I’m quite SURE they gave you a reason for the stop OTHER than “Mr Dog I’m stopping you because you’re in a rental car from out of state.” Now, I won’t argue that the reason (likely something like weaving inside your own lane) was cheezy but they did attribute the stop to something other than out of state olatesnon a rental.
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 7/11/19 at 2:41 pm to MeatCleaverWeaver
No, the conversation was this: Where are you headed? Where are you coming from? Any reason you only have a small travel bag? Do you have any drugs in the vehicle? Mind if we check? Checked. Mind if we use the dog to check which is where I called the atty.
Now. Not having the privilege of being a drunk driver or a thief or drug user, pusher or a cruiser looking for young boys to blow or a veteran of stops such as you appear to be I am not astute at handling the police like perhaps you are. So forgive me for my straight, straight laced lifestyle. And good luck with your stops if they are plentiful.
Now. Not having the privilege of being a drunk driver or a thief or drug user, pusher or a cruiser looking for young boys to blow or a veteran of stops such as you appear to be I am not astute at handling the police like perhaps you are. So forgive me for my straight, straight laced lifestyle. And good luck with your stops if they are plentiful.
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 7/11/19 at 2:48 pm to jimdog
That ain’t right then.
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