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Posted on 4/18/21 at 1:16 pm to
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68425 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 1:16 pm to
This story is fake news.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68425 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 1:19 pm to
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I wonder if the mask they provide to surgeons are the same that people buy 100 for a buck at dollar tree
They are.
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
9545 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 1:23 pm to
I guess I should stop running with my mask on.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29989 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 1:23 pm to
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I'd like to believe, but I think this guy might be a crank.


Yeah, those Stanford guys are all FOS.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68425 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 1:25 pm to
This one is. Read the crap. It is garbage.
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
3263 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

If masks are so detrimental to our health how do surgeons operate 5 days a week for multiple hours for 30+ years without issues? Use your fricking brain and stop getting your medical advice from a barstool sports wannabe


Is this what you claim using you’re fricking brain looks like?

Hahahaha.....great comparison...I can tell you’re brain is just fricking firing on all cylinders!!
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68425 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 1:35 pm to
He is spot on. In fact this stupid "study" cites surgeons and their wearing of masks. He notes, as if it is significant that during major surgeries, after 60 minutes of wearing a mask that the surgeons' oxygen saturation drops 1 percent and heart rate increases by 5 beats per minute. If you know anything, you know that is incredibly insignificant and not worth noting.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 1:40 pm to
He’s a cardio guy at the VA hospital affiliated with Stanford.

He hollers at old, fat guys to move their legs on the treadmill.
Posted by LSU Tiger 216
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
4026 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 1:43 pm to
Are you suggesting everyday people wear a mask appropriately without touching it and also change their mask every 20 minutes? I’d think not. Maybe you should open up your brain too bro.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
Member since Jan 2007
49271 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

I guess you think CO2 is a pollutant as well.

Nope. But it's not what the human body needs to run efficiently.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29989 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

er 60 minutes of wearing a mask that the surgeons' oxygen saturation drops 1 percent and heart rate increases by 5 beats per minute. If you know anything, you know that is incredibly insignificant and not worth noting.



From the referenced study:

“Conclusions
Considering our findings, pulse rates of the surgeon's increase and SpO2 decrease after the first hour. This early change in SpO2 may be either due to the facial mask or the operational stress. Since a very small decrease in saturation at this level, reflects a large decrease in PaO2, our findings may have a clinical value for the health workers and the surgeons.”

Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33584 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

Yeah, those Stanford guys are all FOS.
He's not a Stanford guy. That's part of the cranking.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29989 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

e’s a cardio guy at the VA hospital affiliated with Stanford.


quote:

He hollers at old, fat guys to move their legs on the treadmill.


He’s a PhD and is with Cardiology Dept at the Pali Alto VA which is part of Stanford. Being in the cardiology dept does not mean you help people do cardio. Lol.


Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68425 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 2:13 pm to
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Considering our findings, pulse rates of the surgeon's increase and SpO2 decrease after the first hour
Was 5 bpm and a 1% drop. Dropping spO2 1% isn't going to be a problem for your PaO2. Still insignificant. That can happen getting out of your chair to get a beer during halftime of a game.

And yet this little gem...
quote:

may be either due to the facial mask or the operational stress
suggests they don't even know if that insignificant change was due to the mask or a MAJOR surgical procedure.
This post was edited on 4/18/21 at 2:15 pm
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
11307 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

It’s almost as if they leave work for multiple hours at a time to go home.


Were you wearing one 24/7?
Posted by RooBoy
Member since Apr 2021
396 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 2:14 pm to
Jake88 and NJ El Tigre -- Covidian Butt-Buddies for Life.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29989 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

e's not a Stanford guy. That's part of the cranking.


His employer:

quote:

Cardiology Division, Veterans Affairs Palo Alto Health Care System/Stanford University, Palo Alto, CA, United States
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68425 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 2:16 pm to
That is a well thought out response. Time for your nap because you've clearly taxed your synapses enough for one day.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 2:18 pm to
your thread was done earlier today.

the upshot for you is you have no link to stanford press release and no researchers names.

the best thing at the link.is the banner.

no content

you can do better.
try.
make up something.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 2:20 pm to
You are a liar

I read a link from that article earlier today

And name the 10 nonblack progressive Dems in the House

Another lie
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