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re: F the unions....They are saying that 75% of people support them going on strike.

Posted on 9/27/23 at 5:41 am to
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 5:41 am to
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corporation: we don’t want to pay american workers and we’ll just ship those jobs to asia conservatives: frick em Corporation: Happy Pride conservatives: corporation have turned on us.


Seems like a couple steps were left out
Consumers: this is the max we will pay or we will swap products
Companies: we have cost reduced as much as possible, we will need layoffs, concessions, or consider alternate labor solutions.
Unions: our demands are less work for more pay

I’ve worked at union manufacturing facilities. Those guys fricking suck and I can tell you salaried staff have run the same plants as a skeleton crew during strikes. It may be “hard work,” but it’s not hard. Any moron can do it. Overvaluing your worth is a great way to lose your job and potentially your entire city.

Companies move, towns die.
Posted by Ribbed
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
2745 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 6:00 am to
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Why don’t you support better working conditions for your fellow citizens?

If it was about better working conditions and unions weren't bloc voting for Democrats I'd probably have more sympathy. This is about which leftist organization maintains control of the train as it drives over the collapsed bridge. Randi Weingarten is the perfect encapsulation of union malfeasance. Let them fight.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59034 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 8:29 am to
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he’s pointing out that the increased cost of doing business, regardless of where that increase comes from, is passed on to consumers.


The market dictates prices.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59034 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 8:30 am to
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and unions weren't bloc voting for Democrats


Why are unions a voting bloc for democrats?

Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14086 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 8:43 am to
Hell, the Unions are probably getting paid by the Democrats to destroy the Auto companies.
Aid to China. China has written the check, Unions are doing their work.
Posted by Lutcher Lad
South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Member since Sep 2009
7119 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 8:44 am to
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A guy I worked in my department had worked in a UAW plant. He was a hard working guy, but he said if he did more than the minimal the shop steward would "crawl up his arse."


First of all, let's cut the British bullshite talk..we say arse, not arse!
Back to the main point: He is correct about that. I was a 19 year old kid just starting a job in a union plant as a laborer. I was washing down the floor of a large warehouse with a hose when the ideal clamp securing the hose to a 1/2 inch pipe nipple was leaking and required tightening. I found a screwdriver and began to tighten the clamp when a Union officer came up to me and chewed my arse out because it wasn't my job to use a screwdriver.
Kind of gave me a bad impression of the union right away!
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24590 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 9:01 am to
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The market dictates prices.



But it doesn't dictate the costs.
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
9615 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 9:59 am to
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If unions didn't exist, we wouldn't have a 40-hour work week, healthcare, pensions, and the ability to ensure safe working conditions.


I have all of that without a union. Was there a need for that type of reform back in the industrialization of America? Sure. Now unions just inflate the costs of goods because the high wages/pensions and low hours the Unions are demanding are just passed onto the consumer. Eventually the costs outweigh the profits and the company goes under. Unions don't care about that though.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59034 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 10:14 am to
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But it doesn't dictate the costs.


If a company can’t afford to stay in business, that’s on them. Why do posters here care so much about the finances of a corporation that boasted a profit of $20.981B last year, which was an increase of 17.36% increase from 2021?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59034 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 10:16 am to
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Now unions just inflate the costs of goods because the high wages/pensions and low hours the Unions are demanding are just passed onto the consumer.


People said the same thing about 40 hour work weeks at one point. Technology has advanced and productivity has improved to the point that many people do not need to work 40 hours to accomplish the same tasks people in their positions accomplished 20-40 years ago.
Posted by Ribbed
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
2745 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 10:23 am to
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But it doesn't dictate the costs.

It does. One way or another.
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