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Even with weighting/adjustments, they just cant keep the seas from cooling the past 2 yrs
Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:12 pm
https://rclutz.wordpress.com/2017/10/26/global-ocean-cooling-in-september/
Remember what I said about weighting and averaging? The MET office openly admits they did it in this case, and the data still is showing significant declines. That and the fact that NOAA just admitted that global sea levels have been falling for 2 years should tell you all you need to know about their predictive modeling skills
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September Sea Surface Temperatures (SSTs) are now available, and we see downward spikes in ocean temps everywhere
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September NH temps almost erased a three-month climb; even so 9/2017 is well below the previous two years. Meanwhile SH and the Tropics are setting new lows for this period. With current reports from the El Nino 3.4 grid sector, it seems likely October will go even lower, with downward moves across all oceans.
Remember what I said about weighting and averaging? The MET office openly admits they did it in this case, and the data still is showing significant declines. That and the fact that NOAA just admitted that global sea levels have been falling for 2 years should tell you all you need to know about their predictive modeling skills
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we take an area-weighted average of all the grid boxes with data in to calculate the global average. - MET
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The uncertainty that arises from incomplete sampling is estimated and incorporated into the global average SST files. - MET
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Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:16 pm to RobbBobb
Temps appear to be changing = climate change...now buy my carbon credits!
Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:18 pm to RobbBobb
This is totally expected coming off a Super El Nino. Oceans are still warmer than the running 30 yr avg.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:20 pm to rds dc
Probably more Hurricanes in the future, if true
Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:20 pm to rds dc
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Oceans are still warmer than the running 30 yr avg.
According to the adjusted/estimated data, correct?
Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:26 pm to RobbBobb
Mini ice age coming due to solar minimum
Posted on 10/28/17 at 9:28 pm to CamdenTiger
quote:um....
Probably more Hurricanes in the future, if true
Posted on 10/28/17 at 10:09 pm to RobbBobb
Science Matters is a blog by climate risk denier Ron Clutz. Here is an example of the opposition to his self-proclaimed expertise on climate:
Arctic Sea Ice Blog
In the comments section there are no holds barred in ripping Ron Clutz and his flawed climate risk reasoning.
Arctic Sea Ice Blog
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I'm not even going to link to the blog in question, because it's full of misleading and embarrassing statements by an older gentleman whose mind has obviously been set in concrete a while ago, and this particular nonsense has been taken apart by Tamino back in September. Of course this hasn't discouraged the blogger in question to stop misleading his readers, and his latest production of the useless annual average nonsense* has, again, been taken up by the free market fundamentalist ex-banker hobby organization known as the (no) Global Warming Policy Foundation.
In the comments section there are no holds barred in ripping Ron Clutz and his flawed climate risk reasoning.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 10:18 pm to RobbBobb
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Oceans are still warmer than the running 30 yr avg.
According to the adjusted/estimated data, correct?
That includes the satellite era, which is the most accurate record of SSTs. Oceans were likely warmer in the past but there is no reliable record to confirm that. The only reliable data is from the satellite era (statistically speaking, a very small data set) and even with the current cooling, oceans are warmer than the past 30 years.
Posted on 10/28/17 at 10:20 pm to rds dc
All that melting polar ice is cooling the oceans dummy!
Posted on 10/28/17 at 10:25 pm to CamdenTiger
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Probably more Hurricanes in the future, if true
Not necessarily, warming oceans are altering the global atmospheric circulations and that appears to be making the Atlantic less favorable for hurricanes. Now this season went against that but was it a random bump on the downward trend or a new trend?
Posted on 10/28/17 at 10:31 pm to Kentucker
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Science Matters is a blog by climate risk denier Ron Clutz.
So he phonied up the data that the MET acknowledged was correct, even after they adjusted the data and assigned estimates to undersampled areas of the oceans?
Or you just don't like the facts that he pointed out, in the data that the MET acknowledged?
Because I sure haven't seen any other stories over the last two years about the oceans cooling. Have you? Wonder why?
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