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re: Eric Garner's death and sin taxes
Posted on 8/22/19 at 9:02 am to the808bass
Posted on 8/22/19 at 9:02 am to the808bass
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He’d been arrested 30 times with only a few convictions. If I’d been arrested/harassed in that way, I might swing on a cop, too.
Not sure that would be the best course of action to take. To each their own, I guess. Sure fire way to make a situation way worse.
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Posted on 8/22/19 at 9:03 am to Revelator
why are 1st, 4th, and 14th amendment rights are pretty important. It's acceptable to say you will fight for your second amendment rights but any of the others just gets a "he should have complied" type of response.
There was a guy who ended up killed in Shreveport due to an anti-sagging law that was later deemed unconstitutional. He was fighting for his first amendment right.
There was a guy who ended up killed in Shreveport due to an anti-sagging law that was later deemed unconstitutional. He was fighting for his first amendment right.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 9:06 am to the808bass
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He’d been arrested 30 times with only a few convictions. If I’d been arrested/harassed in that way, I might swing on a cop, too.
I understand the sentiment, but the lack of convictions doesn't necessarily mean the 30 arrests were not warranted. I don't know his history, or if some cops got off on harassing him. But, DA's in larger cities do have a reputation of not prosecuting certain charges. Yet, the cops are still required to go around and arrest people for breaking these laws.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 9:07 am to Revelator
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Things like families being good for society, civility, telling the truth, being kind to others, etc. are time tested realities and aren't based on opinions.
Plus, I'm not for trying to legislate them anyway.
Things like allowing companies to discriminate based on religion, defining what a family is supposed to be, taking away free access to contraceptives, funding for religious propaganda in public buildings. These are things that are being legislated now by the right that need to go away.
I mean Rev I don't agree with you a lot but from our many discussions I get the sense you are good dude for real. So I'm not throwing stones at you really. More at the hypocrisy of politics in general.
The left is guilty of this too with the sin taxes you mentioned. The bottom line is we need LESS GOVERNMENT not more regardless of the party doing the governing.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 9:07 am to the808bass
The left wants to decriminalize every thing. How many of these were minor things that weren’t worth the paper work. How many were because he kept repeating the same actions.
Had he complied, he would probably be alive. There was no way the police could know his health issues. If my job required me to deal with a man his size, l would be looking to control the situation to protect myself. So would you.
I wonder how police recruiting is going in NY.
Had he complied, he would probably be alive. There was no way the police could know his health issues. If my job required me to deal with a man his size, l would be looking to control the situation to protect myself. So would you.
I wonder how police recruiting is going in NY.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 9:09 am to mindbreaker
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Things like allowing companies to discriminate based on religion, defining what a family is supposed to be, taking away free access to contraceptives,
Jesus Christ. Forcing a business to do business with people they don't want to do business with is authoritarian.
Why the frick should contraceptives be "free?" They already hand those things out like candy.
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The left is guilty of this too
Progressives are no different than social conservatives.
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 9:11 am
Posted on 8/22/19 at 9:10 am to mindbreaker
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The bottom line is we need LESS GOVERNMENT not more regardless of the party doing the governing.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 9:12 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Why the frick should contraceptives be "free?" They already hand those things out like candy.
i could think of worse uses of taxpayer money
Posted on 8/22/19 at 9:13 am to DemonKA3268
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Not sure that would be the best course of action to take. To each their own, I guess. Sure fire way to make a situation way worse.
It is a sure fire way to make things worse.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 9:13 am to mindbreaker
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not at all but do we really need legal government paperwork certifying this is a acceptable family?
No. But there’s a reason why families developed the way they did. And it’s not because of “morality.”
Posted on 8/22/19 at 9:23 am to mindbreaker
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I mean Rev I don't agree with you a lot but from our many discussions I get the sense you are good dude for real. So I'm not throwing stones at you really. More at the hypocrisy of politics in general. The left is guilty of this too with the sin taxes you mentioned. The bottom line is we need LESS GOVERNMENT not more regardless of the party doing the governing.
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 9:24 am
Posted on 8/22/19 at 9:26 am to celltech1981
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It's acceptable to say you will fight for your second amendment rights but any of the others just gets a "he should have complied" type of response.
I'm not necessarily arguing about a person's right to sell cigarettes per se, but because something is right or wrong doesn't always make it wise.
I have the right to wear a MAGA hat into an ANTIFA rally, but is that wise?
Posted on 8/22/19 at 9:30 am to Revelator
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You don’t see a ton of poor people in the organic aisle at Whole Foods.
Yeah they are buying “groceries” at a gas station
Posted on 8/22/19 at 9:32 am to the808bass
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No. But there’s a reason why families developed the way they did. And it’s not because of “morality.”
yeah so instead of accepting and allowing nontraditional families lets continue allowing children to grow up in shitty households because that is what a family is supposed to look like. That has worked out so well for us so far.
Love and guidance for young people can come from anywhere maybe it's time we quit rallying against that and oh I don't know give these kids a chance at a good life.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 9:36 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Jesus Christ. Forcing a business to do business with people they don't want to do business with is authoritarian.
Let's just go back to before civil rights while we are at it since that was such a good time in this countries history.
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Why the frick should contraceptives be "free?" They already hand those things out like candy.
because REAL solutions to reduce the amount of abortions is this country are bad? People are going to have sex. Mainly because it is the most awesome thing a living breathing human being can do. Accept it, move on, and provide people with a safe way to do it.
Government pays for roads and red lights and signs to allow safe driving but sex is the hangup? I think maybe we need to grow up here as a country
Posted on 8/22/19 at 9:38 am to Hoops
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Yeah they are buying “groceries” at a gas station
Yeah, definitely not what most would consider normal "groceries"...
Posted on 8/22/19 at 9:40 am to Revelator
Sin taxes are the biggest fraud and fleecing of Americans because a small portion pays for all your shite, road improvements, new schools, etc.
And the public is cool with the disproportionate burden certain people pay because we're still a nation of Puritans.
Why not sin tax all the fat fricks and your fried food and Dr. Pepper and chicken and waffles for breakfast instead of Yogurt and fruit.
Fat people are a bigger drain and stain on society than people who smoke and drink.
A can of Spam should be more expensive than a pack of Cigs.
And the public is cool with the disproportionate burden certain people pay because we're still a nation of Puritans.
Why not sin tax all the fat fricks and your fried food and Dr. Pepper and chicken and waffles for breakfast instead of Yogurt and fruit.
Fat people are a bigger drain and stain on society than people who smoke and drink.
A can of Spam should be more expensive than a pack of Cigs.
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 9:41 am
Posted on 8/22/19 at 9:42 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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And the public is cool with the disproportionate burden certain people pay because we're still a nation of Puritans.
It's not Puritians passing the new wave of sin taxes.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 9:48 am to Revelator
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I have the right to wear a MAGA hat into an ANTIFA rally, but is that wise?
I wasn't arguing whether or not it was wise for him to resist. I just find it odd how a lot of folks (from both sides) pick and choose what constitutional rights they think are worth resisting for. If he were a legal gun owner facing confiscation he would be a hero to the right for resisting. (the sagging guy)
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 9:48 am
Posted on 8/22/19 at 9:49 am to RogerTheShrubber
Let's say you own a Jewelry store. You want a guy out in front of your store selling stolen watches?
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