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Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:20 pm to baybeefeetz
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Info to explain his complaint in the video about "not selling anything," etc, would be fine.
And if he didn't have any actual cigarettes on him, that would be presented as well.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:23 pm to baybeefeetz
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was accidentally killed
Yup. Accidentally homicided. I agree.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:32 pm to the808bass
You seem hung up on "homicide" as though it assigns fault. In this case, it's a medical term, not a legal one.
There's justifiable homicide, you know that, right?
There's justifiable homicide, you know that, right?
Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:41 pm to texashorn
Yes. There is accidental homicide. Asthma is not accidental homicide.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:49 pm to texashorn
quote:
You seem hung up on "homicide" as though it assigns fault.
No, he's rightfully hung up on homicide because posters keep insinuating he died primarily because of his poor health, as if he was probably going to die later that day anyways.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:53 pm to lsu480
quote:I can't find any public record of convictions, only arrests, which mirrors the police leak to the WSJ (it's a police leak because the WSJ source included juvenile records, whic aren't public).
You didn't answer my question. Was he really never convicted for any of the 30 arrests? I honestly don't know but that would be messed up...
Granted, I'm only searching third-party background aggregators because the primary source (NY courts website) charges a ridiculous $65 per search. But CriminalSearches has bupkis, and BeenVerified shows a bunch of "nolle prosequi."
Given that, and the fact that I can find nothing from any source, even in the fever swamps of right-wing news media, discussing any convictions, I'm 95% sure he hasn't been. The other 5% being maybe he has one or two convictions on the cigarette charges only and those aren't showing up in the aggregators for whatever reason.
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:53 pm to the808bass
Ahh, ok. That's what I get for not reading every page of the thread. Next time...
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:00 am to Iosh
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police leak because the WSJ source included juvenile records, whic aren't public
Is this legal? Leaking juvenile records? There were some rumors here in STL about Brown's juvie records but there were no official leaks of any information that might be considered prejudicial.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:15 am to the808bass
quote:Of course not, but who's going to investigate that? The cops?
Is this legal? Leaking juvenile records?
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:28 am to Iosh
He is already dead.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 5:18 am to ChineseBandit58
quote:
Mayor DeBlasio
Pronounced "sack/of-shite",
Shut, can I type "shite"?, shite for brains mayor. He makes shite look good, like a pudding pop.
This post was edited on 12/10/14 at 5:32 am
Posted on 12/10/14 at 8:49 am to Jim Rockford
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If you don't hold law enforcement to a standard when dealing with Everyone, pretty soon they won't be held to a standard when dealing with Anyone. As we've seen over and over.
There's a lot of truth in this statement.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:17 am to igoringa
From your link headline:
I just don't think the DA would leave out a lesser charge if a regular citizen had been the aggressor.
quote:
Staten Island DA Didn't Ask Garner Grand Jury to Consider Reckless Endangerment Charge: Source
I just don't think the DA would leave out a lesser charge if a regular citizen had been the aggressor.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:21 pm to PrimeTime Money
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They may have been justified in arresting him, but they could have gone about it without choking him out. And his previous record is irrelevant in this instance.
Why isn't it relevant? Garner said he was resiting and wanted the police to go away and stop bothering him so much. We now know why he was bothered so much.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:27 pm to DaBike
quote:Do we?
We now know why he was bothered so much.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 12:28 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:
they could have gone about it without choking him out.
Are you sure that is what happened? I read that he died of other causes while in the Ambulance?
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:15 pm to roygu
Homifrickingcide.
Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 5:27 pm to LSURussian
quote:
You try to act like a tough guy on a message board to compensate for your physical inadequacies
This made me laugh, you're still a dickhead
Posted on 12/10/14 at 5:32 pm to LSURussian
I would have definitely stopped choking him sometime after he was on the ground and while he was saying "I can't breathe". Cop will get his issue when the Feds investigate. Garner family will get paid. Cops wanted to enforce some cigarette sales tax liberal BS, so I hope the negative publicity and money that will be lost in lawsuits that enforcing that $6 a pack was worth it.
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