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re: "Empire" actor suffers beating in awful hate crime that doesn't sound like a lie at all

Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:01 am to
Posted by Damone
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Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:01 am to
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When officers showed up at the apartment, the rope was still around Smollett’s neck, said Guglielmi, who described the rope as a “thin, light rope.” Guglielmi said the rope didn’t necessarily resemble a noose.

Smollett was not able to identify the race of either alleged assailant:

Smollett initially told police his attackers were two men wearing ski masks and all black clothing. In a follow-up interview in the morning, Smollett told detectives the men also yelled “this is MAGA country” after they attacked him, according to Guglielmi. Smollett didn’t provide any other description of the men, including their race.

And police don’t have enough information to put out a description of the attackers:

Police also haven’t found any video showing the attackers in the surrounding areas or any witnesses to the attack. Guglielmi said police didn’t have enough information as of Tuesday night to put out a description of the attackers.




This dude probably got involved in some embarrassing personal shite and needed an excuse.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17762 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:01 am to
I went from skeptical to fascinated and now to borderline obsessed with this story. It stretches the limits in both directions. It's beyond unbelievable, to the point of almost being comical. But then you realize that some people actually believe this really happened, and you have to feel sorry for citizens that go around with that many snakes in their head on a daily basis. Imagine having a view of your own country that was so jaded that even this story seemed believable.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73450 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:04 am to
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This dude probably got involved in some embarrassing personal shite and needed an excuse.

Bingo.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73516 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:04 am to
I saw this on the news this morning and immediately said bullshite. Then, they said this dude was gay too, which just increased my confidence that this is a complete fabrication.
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 9:05 am
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:05 am to
Only video they've found is of this dude by himself.

Zero evidence has been found of any suspects. No eye witnesses.

Dude probably slipped on some ice.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17762 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:06 am to
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, Smollett told detectives the men also yelled “this is MAGA country” after they attacked him, according to Guglielmi. Smollett didn’t provide any other description of the men, including their race.


Maybe, in his own mind, Smollett heard "THIS IS MAGA COUNTRY" ringing in his ears after being slapped around?

This is commonly called "getting some sense knocked into you" and Mrs. Cane threatens me with it all the time
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101475 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:13 am to
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When officers showed up at the apartment, the rope was still around Smollett’s neck, said Guglielmi, who described the rope as a “thin, light rope.” Guglielmi said the rope didn’t necessarily resemble a noose.


When auto erotic asphyxiation goes wrong.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162231 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:14 am to
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When auto erotic asphyxiation goes wrong.

Could very well be the case

Should be grateful he isn't dead
Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
Member since Dec 2003
21326 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:20 am to
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When auto erotic asphyxiation goes wrong


This is looking more and more like David Carradine 2.0

To paraphrase David Caruso from CSI Miami...it looks like this time, the chicken (puts on sunglasses) choked back.
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 9:22 am
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24936 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:28 am to
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This dude probably got involved in some embarrassing personal shite and needed an excuse.


Really does sound like it. His mistake is going overboard on his "story" and thus bringing more attention and scrutiny to it. Maybe he thinks any publicity is good publicity.
Posted by DWaginHTown
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2006
9866 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:46 am to
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There is a thread on twitter with David Webb saying the cell phone tower pings and video footage are contradicting the story.


I thought he changed his name to Jason Bourne.
Posted by UFMatt
Gator Nation - Everywhere
Member since Oct 2010
11468 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:57 am to
Was there any mention of a gerbil being involved?
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56362 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:01 am to
Not yet

But as soon as I saw the tiny scratch and the MAGA comment I knew it was bullshite
Posted by LSU2NO
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
1924 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:02 am to
quote:

Was there any mention of a gerbil being involved?


South Park
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:02 am to
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There is a thread on twitter with David Webb saying the cell phone tower pings and video footage are contradicting the story.



Link?
Posted by CajunTiger92
Member since Dec 2007
2821 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:56 am to
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Imagine having a view of your own country that was so jaded that even this story seemed believable.


Not only that but the story can be proven false, even with the person admitting it was a fabrication, and some will still act like it actually happened. They still believe it.
Posted by hsfolk
Member since Sep 2009
18546 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 11:36 am to
wouldn't the Subway have footage of the alleged perps?
Posted by Kadjin
edge of the basin
Member since Oct 2013
1251 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 11:41 am to
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When officers showed up at the apartment, the rope was still around Smollett’s neck


But they also reported that after the suspects left the seen he self-transported to the hospital. Did that happen after he ran home and called the cops and gave a statement? If so, why didn't the cops bring him to the hospital or call an ambulance?

Why did he still have the rope around his neck? would you be thinking to leave it on as evidence? or if you were afraid for your life would you rip that beeatch off the second the suspects were gone?

If they poured liquid on him it would be in his clothes and at the scene on the ground, even if dried up they could identify said liquid and test for it at the scene.

If a rope was used there would more than likely be rope fibers at the scene. If you've ever used rope it tends to leave evidence if it is made from natural fibers. Synthetic possibly not.


If he was bleeding there would possibly be blood at the scene, especially if they had him on the ground.


I know this isn't a murder investigation, but there's plenty to investigate without witnesses or footage, and I know most of what I'm thinking will only give or take credit from the victim's story, but any of that evidence could possibly be used to tie the suspects to the scene in question.

Just some thoughts from someone with no professional detective training
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17762 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 11:41 am to
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wouldn't the Subway have footage of the alleged perps?


Footage only shows Smollett in Subway
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
60110 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 11:44 am to
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They still believe it.
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