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Ely Ratner - If China Invades North Korea, Will Trump Be Prepared?

Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:05 am
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:05 am
quote:

The odds of a catastrophic war on the Korean Peninsula are increasing by the day. The Trump administration is determined to deny North Korea the ability to threaten the United States with nuclear weapons. On the cusp of reaching exactly that milestone, supreme leader Kim Jong Un is in no mood to bend to U.S. pressure and halt—much less roll back—his weapons program. Neither side is proposing concessions to ease tensions, and Washington has announced that time is running out for nonmilitary options to end the standoff.

The consequences of a conflict would be devastating. By conservative estimates, upwards of 300,000 people would die in the first days of the war. Millions of refugees, a widespread humanitarian crisis and at least a trillion dollars in reconstruction costs would follow. If that’s not challenging enough, it is unlikely that U.S. and South Korean troops would be the only foreign forces inside North Korea.

China isn’t going to start a conflict with North Korea, but if instability or war breaks out, it won’t sit on the sidelines either. With much at stake, growing ambitions and an increasingly capable military, chances are good that China would send tens of thousands of police and soldiers into North Korea—an eventuality for which the United States today is simply not prepared. Both to avoid an inadvertent military clash with China and to protect America’s long-term interests in Asia, the Trump administration should urgently develop a post-conflict plan that reflects its preferred end state for the Korean Peninsula.

Despite a 1961 defense treaty, China is not going to intervene in North Korea in an act of selflessness. Relations between Beijing and Pyongyang have deteriorated rapidly in recent years: Kim has yet to meet with Chinese President Xi Jinping; the regime has purged high-ranking officials with close ties to Beijing; and North Korea has rebuffed recent Chinese attempts to resuscitate bilateral ties.

China’s intervention would have at least three goals. First: Manage refugee flows. In fact, there are credible reports that the Chinese government is already constructing refugee camps in Jilin province, just across the border. Second, the People’s Liberation Army would attempt to secure major nuclear and missile facilities. In this endeavor, the United States and China have shared interests in preventing North Korea’s deadly weapons from going missing or falling into the wrong hands.

Third, and most troubling for the United States, China would likely establish a large-scale military presence to maximize its influence in subsequent discussions about the political and military future of the Korean Peninsula. As Russia has demonstrated in Syria, boots on the ground offer considerable sway over political futures.
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Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12420 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:12 am to
1. Nuke Pyongyang
2. Roll the US army into North Korea with smiles and candy bars
3. Offer help to China and Russia cause they just shite their pants
4. ??????
5. Bitcoin
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 6:02 am to
6. Rubbers
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
20383 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 6:36 am to
If China invades North Korea, let em' have it.



It sure would save us a shitload of trouble. I'd rather have a Chicom state there over Crazy Kim & Co.
This post was edited on 12/22/17 at 7:57 am
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20116 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 7:30 am to
quote:

Dick Leverage

quote:

6. Rubbers


Authoritative.
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
4755 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:39 am to
The simple solution to that a-hole in North Korea is for Trump to work a deal with China in which China moves in swiftly in the middle of the night, arrests the entire Kim family and its hangers-on, installs a government composed of technocrats such as they have in China, and then dismantles the N.K. nuclear program. Let China govern N.K. as one of it's provinces. The people there would be a lot better fed and well off, and that goofy fricker and his family will no longer be a theat.
Posted by GumpInLex
Lexington, KY
Member since Nov 2011
1617 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 9:01 am to
I really would like to see a situation where an agreement can be made with China to allow a unified Korea.

I mean, this isnt the Cold War, and the US and South Korea are both massive trading partners with China... SK exports over $120Billion and imports over $90Billion worth of goods to and from China each year.

With a unified Korea, there would be more value added to that trade relationship and the Chinese would no longer have to worry about refugees trying to cross over into China. Seems like a win-win to me. I guess the only thing standing in the way of that resolution would be the Communist Party not wanting to look weak as a unified Korea could be seen as a US victory.
This post was edited on 12/22/17 at 9:02 am
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16740 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 9:43 am to
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I really would like to see a situation where an agreement can be made with China to allow a unified Korea


China will not allow a democracy on its border much the same way Putin will not allow it in Eastern Europe. It threatens their grip on their people.

Hence China will not allow for a unified democratic Korea. NK will have to remain a buffer country of some sort run from Beijing.

Which is fine with me as long as it doesn't have nukes and threaten the US.
This post was edited on 12/22/17 at 9:45 am
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
4755 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 10:23 am to
quote:

NK will have to remain a buffer country of some sort run from Beijing. Which is fine with me as long as it doesn't have nukes and threaten the US.


+1

I would feel a lot better with China running N.K. like a province and simply getting rid of the Kim dynasty. I'm hoping that is what President Trump is working on behind the scenes. However, a deal like this won't come easy. China will ask a lot to get it done.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 10:25 am to
All I know is if you are in a heavy brigade you will probably be in Korea in 2018.
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