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re: Elon letting his true feelings known about the Big Beautiful Bill

Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:24 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:24 pm to
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Yes, we have a binary choice no matter how much you may want to kid yourself into thinking otherwise.



We, as voters, have to start doing a better job.


I always believed we were to vote our conscious, which I do.

The American political scene has been dominated by "we arent the other guy" for too long. Now, they're all pretty much the same.

Gotta start kicking the faux conservatives to the curb or there will be no conservatives left.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109737 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:25 pm to
Who was the true conservative choice in the 2024 General Election?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297396 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:26 pm to
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Who was the true conservative choice in the 2024 General Election?


No one. Because y'all chose a Democrat to oppose the Democrats.

When your "leader" is bashing true conservatives, you should probably re-evaluate your own strategy and try to keep that from happening again.

We elect incumbents because we are idiots. We dont give new ideas a try.
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 3:27 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62611 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:27 pm to
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The American political scene has been dominated by "we arent the other guy" for too long. Now, they're all pretty much the same.
But it was his turn!
quote:

Gotta start kicking the faux conservatives to the curb or there will be no conservatives left.
The clapping seals want to get rid of the conservatives. So, I gues give tot the RINOS/MINO coalition and Bernie bros to fight over who can spend the most and claim credit for it.
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 3:28 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297396 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:28 pm to
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The clapping seals want to get rid of the conservatives


Indeed.

In fact, conservative is a bad word in the MAGA lexicon.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154748 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:31 pm to
The clapping seals also want to silence dissent just like our _______ friends by shouting down those without the approved opinion


Fortunately, they have the bark of a pack of chihuahuas. Annoying, yes. Meaningful, no.
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 3:33 pm
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
19086 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:34 pm to
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Exactly. The idea that this is all on Congress is idiotic.


Its the over-arching idea that any bill has to be completely drowned in pork for these fricks to pass it at all.

Its bc congress is how it is, that the BBB even structured this way in the first place.
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 7:40 pm
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9802 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:35 pm to
Elon has done a million times more than Massie or Rand to change things, rather than just bitching and voting with Democrats.

What we're dealing with is the reality of what CAN pass versus what we WANT to pass, under the circumstances of a slim majority in Congress and a GOP caucus still full of way too many never-Trump establishment RINOs. You have to play the game to some extent. You can throw the baby completely out with the bathwater or take the wins you can get for the time being, while still working toward longer-term goals.

Elon was threatening to primary lawmakers that obstructed this administration's agenda. So, hopefully he follows through on those threats and funds opposition campaigns to primary them and get real America First patriots in those seats.
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 3:40 pm
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9802 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:36 pm to
So, a disagreement is him totally turning on MAGA?

Sure, pal.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33257 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:36 pm to
Elon love [OFF] ON
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
75360 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:36 pm to
Having a majority in Congress and truly being in control are two totally different matters.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297396 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:37 pm to
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Its the over-arching idea that any bill has to be completely drowned in pork for these fricks to pass it all.


And here we are with another. This bill isnt a "win."

Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:37 pm to
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No one. Because y'all chose a Democrat to oppose the Democrats.





The main difference is Trump doesn't have the outright visceral hatred of The Straight White Man that the Democrats do.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9802 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:38 pm to
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Ouch moment for the mouth breathers.


Not really as much of an ouch moment as TDS f@gs like you think it is.
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
19086 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:38 pm to
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This bill isnt a "win."


No shite
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297396 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:38 pm to
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If you'd stop trying to put your peen in your mouth you'd realize being against a bill =/= disdain for Trump.


Unfortunately, Trump doesnt realize this, and neither do the ankle biters.

Bashing Massey for opposing puts him at adds with conservtism.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9802 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:39 pm to
:wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: TDS! OMB! :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah:

Cry more.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297396 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:39 pm to
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The main difference is Trump doesn't have the outright visceral hatred of The Straight White Man that the Democrats do.


If MAGA continues drifting in its current direction, it absolutely will.

Straight white males prefer opportunity to protectionism.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

Elon has done a million times for than Massie or Rand to change things, rather than just bitching and voting with Democrats.

What we're dealing with is the reality of what CAN pass versus what we WANT to pass, under the circumstances of a slim majority in Congress and a GOP caucus still full of way too many never-Trump establishment RINOs. You have to play the game to some extent. You can throw the baby completely out with the bathwater or take the wins you can get for the time being, while still working toward longer-term goals.

Elon was threatening to primary lawmakers that obstructed this administration's agenda. So, hopefully he follows through on those threats and funds opposition campaigns to primary them and get real America First patriots in those seats.



And here's where "playing the game" has gotten us. 36 trillion dollars in debt. It's a game for losers and at some point, we have to stop playing it. Now's as good a time as any.

The Bill sucks big, veiny cocks and our Democrat President is married to it.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9802 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:41 pm to
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Having a majority in Congress and truly being in control are two totally different matters.


Exactly. Turtle, Thune and the GOP establishment neocons are still stubbornly holding on to power.
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