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re: Electric chair could return for executions in Louisiana

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Posted by SundayFunday
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 2:02 pm to
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Firing Squad FTW. Shooters should be selected from the citizenry at random just like jury duty. The citizenry should be responsible for executing it's criminals. Not the state.




Not no but HELL no. Are you going to pay for the therapy for the citizens who are now forced to commit murder for the state?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 2:03 pm to
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No, I don't trust the state.

Trusting the government has nothing to do with it. The jury decides whether someone is executed or not. As it should be.

Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 2:04 pm to
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"I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God"



Sounds like Syria right now.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 2:05 pm to
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Trusting the government has nothing to do with it. The jury decides whether someone is executed or not. As it should be.
There have been issues with evidence and who is brought to trial in the past.

I don't trust the state to be truthful in many, if any, situations.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 2:05 pm to
Nobody would be convicting murder for "the state." How do you not understand this?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 2:07 pm to
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I don't trust the state to be truthful in many, if any, situations.



Then the citizenry should be more prudent in electing their district attorneys.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 2:10 pm to
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Then the citizenry should be more prudent in electing their district attorneys.
It is more than just them. I don't trust any cops. I don't trust judges.

DAs are the least of my worries when it comes to this topic.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 2:11 pm to
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Trusting the government has nothing to do with it


well that's just not true
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 2:12 pm to
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I don't trust any cops.


I'm with you there, but that's more of a societal problem.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 2:15 pm to
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I'm with you there, but that's more of a societal problem.
If you don't trust cops, why do you trust their evidence?

Cops are the start of the entire chain of events.
This post was edited on 2/2/14 at 2:16 pm
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 2:17 pm to
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Murder is wrong, and no man nor a government should commit.

Ah, so you are in favor of slavery and Nazism? Interesting.
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
9829 posts
Posted on 2/2/14 at 2:18 pm to
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Nobody would be convicting murder for "the state." How do you not understand this?



I think I understand what you posted but do you think that makes a difference to the average citizen who has to pull the trigger and ending someones life?


I'm all for firing squads but not a squad being pulled from the public like jury duty. It should be willing participants and members of law enforcement.
This post was edited on 2/2/14 at 2:21 pm
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 2:18 pm to
I guess I trust them more than you do then.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 2:22 pm to
Well I think you should be able to opt out. I posted that later. I also don't think you should be able to volunteer either. I think there is precedent for this in the past. Being part of a society has it's responsibilities. Not all of them are nice. Maybe I take it too far, but the citizenry should have more of a stake in the justice system.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 2:22 pm to
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On a related note there is no justifiable reason for the death penalty to exist


Oh , there are LOTS of justifiable reasons.
Here are just a few:

1. Recidivism. When you are dead you cannot murder again. In fact, you can't even drive slow in the passing lane again.

2. Deterrence. Public hangings were designed to teach children what would happen if you committed murder. We need to bring that back.

3. Societal Retribution. Eichmann was no longer a threat to the Jews. And Israel had a policy of no death penalty. But they executed them because it made them feel really good.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116717 posts
Posted on 2/2/14 at 2:24 pm to
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Are you going to pay for the therapy for the citizens who are now forced to commit murder for the state?


I'll do it for LSU football tickets.
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
9829 posts
Posted on 2/2/14 at 2:28 pm to
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I'll do it for LSU football tickets.



Well duh.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 2/2/14 at 2:28 pm to
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And why does the ability to feel pain make one human?

What an AWESOME question!

I'll take a stab at it:

Without the ability to feel pain, one cannot empathize with one's fellow man.

To be without empathy is inhuman.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62002 posts
Posted on 2/2/14 at 2:32 pm to
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I'll take a stab at it: Without the ability to feel pain, one cannot empathize with one's fellow man. To be without empathy is inhuman.



So if a person is paralyzed from the waist down, the doctors should be able to conduct cruel experiments on his lower extremities since that part of him is no longer human right?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 2/2/14 at 2:48 pm to
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So if a person is paralyzed from the waist down, the doctors should be able to conduct cruel experiments on his lower extremities since that part of him is no longer human right?

Being paralyzed =/= not able to feel pain.
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