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re: Elaine Chao for Transportation Secretary
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:09 am to goldennugget
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:09 am to goldennugget
There's a high correlation between Gary Johnson support and virginity.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:13 am to hsfolk
Hiring the Senate majority leaders wife. This will help pass trumps agenda. 4d chess
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:31 am to UGATiger26
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Minority female with relevant secretary experience in a Republican administration.
Hand was probably forced on this one. Too good of an aesthetic, yet practical, appointment to ignore.
nice.
so when does this rationalization end? once trump has an entire staff of career politicians and cabinet members who cut thier teeth in the Clinton /Bush/Obama admin?
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:41 am to MrCarton
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so when does this rationalization end? once trump has an entire staff of career politicians and cabinet members who cut thier teeth in the Clinton /Bush/Obama admin?
Exactly.
Trumpkins had best be getting used to being disappointed.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 11:21 am to BamaGradinTn
or we get use to things being done. Trump could basically EO everything like Obama but then the next establishment or dem that got in could erase his 4-8 years.
Im all about cleaning up DC but much like the libertarian problem, how do you do that without being willing to have some give and take? I love Daddy Ron Paul but he got nothing done other than selling some gold and books.
If you want anything to happen at all then you have to be willing to give and take until you end up with a huge majority of like minded people. We have the majorities but not enough yet.
Im all about cleaning up DC but much like the libertarian problem, how do you do that without being willing to have some give and take? I love Daddy Ron Paul but he got nothing done other than selling some gold and books.
If you want anything to happen at all then you have to be willing to give and take until you end up with a huge majority of like minded people. We have the majorities but not enough yet.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 3:20 pm to heartbreakTiger
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Ron Paul but he got nothing done other than selling some gold and books
wrong.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 3:34 pm to hsfolk
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Elaine Chao for Transportation Secretary
But I thought Trump HATES ALL IMMIGRANTS
Posted on 11/29/16 at 5:04 pm to goldennugget
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You voted for Gary fricking Johnson. Yet you have the audacity to call Trump a clown.
You continue to miss the point. A vote for Gary (or Stein) among thoughtful people was a vote against the two-party rule (note: I don't give a shite about your opinion on that matter, so save it). Hate to tell you, but your god emperor is going to get a lot of criticism from people who see through the charade a little better than you appear to. You bought the "drain the swamp" line, and now you're having to deflect and rationalize. Why not just admit there are valid criticisms about some of Trump's appointments?
Posted on 11/29/16 at 5:14 pm to rbWarEagle
again how do you get any agenda done if you have all outsiders? The answer is you can't. It comes down to you either get outsiders and get nothing done except by EO or you make some deals, you drain parts of the swamp but you get meaningful things passed that will help the people.
More people care if the economy is rolling and they are safe than anything else. To get any meaningful tax reforms done, take away Obama care or build the wall we need the help of the house and the senate. We can't drain it if we want shite done, at least not drain it all.
More people care if the economy is rolling and they are safe than anything else. To get any meaningful tax reforms done, take away Obama care or build the wall we need the help of the house and the senate. We can't drain it if we want shite done, at least not drain it all.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 5:16 pm to heartbreakTiger
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again how do you get any agenda done if you have all outsiders? The answer is you can't. It comes down to you either get outsiders and get nothing done except by EO or you make some deals, you drain parts of the swamp but you get meaningful things passed that will help the people.
More people care if the economy is rolling and they are safe than anything else. To get any meaningful tax reforms done, take away Obama care or build the wall we need the help of the house and the senate. We can't drain it if we want shite done, at least not drain it all.
#DrainTheSwamp*
Posted on 11/29/16 at 5:23 pm to hsfolk
Okay, so this as an individual selection doesn't serve to "drain the swamp." You guys are right, I am really starting to rethink my whole support of Trump and this MAGA thing.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 5:24 pm to heartbreakTiger
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what did he get done?
If we are talking only about legislation, then at least half of what DJT promised he would do will undoubtedly reference legislation either put forth or sponsored by Ron Paul. Here is the wiki
you might be surprised what Uncle Ron provided for posterity. A lot of groundwork has been laid. Pretty good for a career failure.
Outside of legislation, RP changed the spectrum of American politics with his 08 and 12 campaigns. RP's passionate speeches and incredible campaign contributed to millions of votes for the libertarian party this year. It brought untold numbers of people from around the world into the fold of classical liberalism. More than anything DJT has ever done, RP built a base that isn't going anywhere any time soon.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 5:25 pm to weptiger
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Okay, so this as an individual selection doesn't serve to "drain the swamp." You guys are right, I am really starting to rethink my whole support of Trump and this MAGA thing.
Name a selection that drained the swamp.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 5:26 pm to MrCarton
yes its a good base but he didn't get any of it passed because Ron refused to ever bend on his position which is admirable but the fatal flaw of the libertarians. They live in a ideal world. Its not as kook as the liberal world but its still kind of unrealistic.
I want the swamp drained but I also want things passed that the next president can't undo
I want the swamp drained but I also want things passed that the next president can't undo
Posted on 11/29/16 at 5:26 pm to heartbreakTiger
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again how do you get any agenda done if you have all outsiders? The answer is you can't. It comes down to you either get outsiders and get nothing done except by EO or you make some deals, you drain parts of the swamp but you get meaningful things passed that will help the people.
I have said this 1000 times. 90% of what DJT needs to achieve can be done by ripping up inter-department memos, reducing enforcement of regulations that his branch is responsible for, and destroying thousands of EOs that require ZERO congressional of judicial input.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 11/29/16 at 5:27 pm to rbWarEagle
would you rather drain the swamp first or pass meaningful legislation that helps middle americans?
For me ill take getting Obama care rolled away, tax cuts, and a wall. Then ill take draining the swamp. He has made steps towards that with icing out lobbyist
For me ill take getting Obama care rolled away, tax cuts, and a wall. Then ill take draining the swamp. He has made steps towards that with icing out lobbyist
Posted on 11/29/16 at 5:28 pm to heartbreakTiger
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yes its a good base but he didn't get any of it passed because Ron refused to ever bend on his position which is admirable but the fatal flaw of the libertarians.
Having principles is not a fatal flaw. It's actually the only thing that will keep libertarians relevant.
Again, the success he had wasn't in getting legislation passed. Get it out of your head that passing legislation is the only way to "get anything done". That's wrong.
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I want the swamp drained but I also want things passed that the next president can't undo
Then call your congressman?
Posted on 11/29/16 at 5:30 pm to MrCarton
Yes, he needs to do that but anything done by EO will be turned over. Its why Trump is going to rip apart the Obama legacy.
He is going to roll back EOs, I'm sure he will end up cutting departments and what not. I just don't see anyway to get the biggest things done if the cabinet is all full of outsiders. I do think he needs more outsiders, but I'm ok with Mitchs wife getting a role that no one really cares about. It gives him leverage on Mitch to get stuff done.
I feel like at times many libertarians refuse to come to the center. I like the view point on most issues but as much as I hate the establishment you have to work with them some what.
He is going to roll back EOs, I'm sure he will end up cutting departments and what not. I just don't see anyway to get the biggest things done if the cabinet is all full of outsiders. I do think he needs more outsiders, but I'm ok with Mitchs wife getting a role that no one really cares about. It gives him leverage on Mitch to get stuff done.
I feel like at times many libertarians refuse to come to the center. I like the view point on most issues but as much as I hate the establishment you have to work with them some what.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 5:32 pm to heartbreakTiger
It's going to be hilarious to watch Trump move toward a single-payer system. ![](https://images.tigerdroppings.com/Images/Icons/IconLOL.gif)
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