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re: “Due process” for deportations is as ridiculous as squatters rights.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 8:55 pm to dgnx6
Posted on 4/22/25 at 8:55 pm to dgnx6
Obama is not the president, so why are you crying about him now? Also, when did Obama not follow due process. Obamas deportations may have been harsh, but he did not disobey court orders. Next.
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 8:56 pm to BertyFot
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but the court’s ruling specifically prohibited his deportation to El Salvador due to the credible threat of persecution there.
The threat being a rival gang.
We shouldn’t protect foreign gang members. Asylum claim is bullshite. No laws were broken removing him to his home country.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 8:57 pm to bhtigerfan
Whatever you believe should happen is not relevant in this case. The law is the law.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 8:57 pm to BertyFot
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Obama is not the president, so why are you crying about him now? Also, when did Obama not follow due process. Obamas deportations may have been harsh, but he did not disobey court orders. Next.
They didn’t even see a judge.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 8:57 pm to oklahogjr
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What is the official US government process for asylum seekers? What steps are they told to take by the US government to come here and seek asylum?
Why do you frickin idiots enjoy being stolen from?
Why should I have to put a single cent to support someone from a shithole country that’s “seeking asylum” as if I give two fricks about that person?
Posted on 4/22/25 at 8:57 pm to BertyFot
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Whatever you believe should happen is not relevant in this case. The law is the law.
Cite the law big guy.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 8:59 pm to dgnx6
Because the legal system allowed it. The legal system does not allow the president to disobey court orders. That’s why we have checks and balances. The president is not all powerful, not matter how much unilateral power his followers believe he should be given.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 8:59 pm to BertyFot
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Because the legal system allowed it.
bullshite
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:00 pm to dgnx6
Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), Section 235(b)(1); 8 U.S.C. § 1225(b)(1)
INA § 241(a)(5); 8 U.S.C. § 1231(a)(5)
INA § 238(b); 8 U.S.C. § 1228(b)
INA § 241(a)(5); 8 U.S.C. § 1231(a)(5)
INA § 238(b); 8 U.S.C. § 1228(b)
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:01 pm to RohanGonzales
Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), Section 235(b)(1); 8 U.S.C. § 1225(b)(1)
Go read a book.
Go read a book.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:04 pm to dgnx6
A federal court ruled that he faced credible danger if returned to El Salvador, not because he was a gang member, but because he was being targeted by gangs. That ruling legally barred his deportation there, and yet he was sent there anyway, violating a court order. But I’m sure you don’t care about following the law considering the politicians you admire.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:06 pm to BertyFot
So a gang banger was skeered of a rival gang?
No wonder alter douche loves the DeMS-13 boy
No wonder alter douche loves the DeMS-13 boy
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:06 pm to BertyFot
Do you realize you cited this law?
So yes, under bush and Obama they weren’t given due process.
Garcia actually was in this case.
I was asking to cite what laws say he can’t be removed.
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Section 235(b)(1) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), codified at 8 U.S.C. § 1225(b)(1), outlines the expedited removal process for certain inadmissible aliens arriving at a port of entry. It allows the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to remove these individuals without a hearing before an immigration judge
So yes, under bush and Obama they weren’t given due process.
Garcia actually was in this case.
I was asking to cite what laws say he can’t be removed.
This post was edited on 4/22/25 at 9:08 pm
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:09 pm to BertyFot
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But I’m sure you don’t care about following the law considering the politicians you admire.
What law?
Garcia applied for asylum 8 years after entering illegally.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:10 pm to dgnx6
I’m aware.
INA § 235(b)(1)—is what allows expedited removal at the border without a hearing in certain cases, but that doesn’t apply to Garcia.
Garcia wasn’t a recent border crosser. He had lived in the U.S. for over a decade, passed a credible fear interview and in 2019, a U.S. immigration judge granted him withholding of removal which is a legal protection that explicitly barred his deportation to El Salvador under federal law
So yes, unlike many past deportations, Garcia did go through due process. That’s why his deportation was a legal violation. The judge had already ruled in his favor—and DHS ignored that ruling.
The US government under Trump broke the law by deporting someone to a country a court specifically said was too dangerous.
INA § 235(b)(1)—is what allows expedited removal at the border without a hearing in certain cases, but that doesn’t apply to Garcia.
Garcia wasn’t a recent border crosser. He had lived in the U.S. for over a decade, passed a credible fear interview and in 2019, a U.S. immigration judge granted him withholding of removal which is a legal protection that explicitly barred his deportation to El Salvador under federal law
So yes, unlike many past deportations, Garcia did go through due process. That’s why his deportation was a legal violation. The judge had already ruled in his favor—and DHS ignored that ruling.
The US government under Trump broke the law by deporting someone to a country a court specifically said was too dangerous.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:12 pm to BertyFot
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A federal court ruled that he faced credible danger if returned to El Salvador, not because he was a gang member, but because he was being targeted by gangs. That ruling legally barred his deportation there, and yet he was sent there anyway, violating a court order. But I’m sure you don’t care about following the law considering the politicians you admire.
The federal courts and their bullshite rulings are farcical.
Roland Freisler's rulings were "legal", too, about the same difference.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:13 pm to dgnx6
The law being broken was the court order that explicitly prohibited Garcia from being deported to El Salvador. He had been granted withholding of removal by a U.S. immigration judge.
Whether he applied for asylum late or not doesn’t change that. He went through the legal process, won his case, and was living here legally under that protection.
Whether he applied for asylum late or not doesn’t change that. He went through the legal process, won his case, and was living here legally under that protection.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:14 pm to RohanGonzales
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The federal courts and their bullshite rulings are farcical.
The immigration and district court rulings may have very well been farcical. Based on the district judges actions and written statements since then I think it’s clear that it was.
Ignoring the order was still unnecessary. It would have been better to appeal and win.
This administration needs to play the game and win. The constant distractions from trying to rush everything is going to lead to a logjam of nothing substantive occurring and a bad time in the midterms for the House.
This post was edited on 4/22/25 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:17 pm to BertyFot
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Whether he applied for asylum late or not doesn’t change that. He went through the legal process, won his case, and was living here legally under that protection.
Slow your roll. Dumb dumb. Immigration court is administrative. He didn’t win shite. He was ordered removed twice. Erroneously granted asylum. Temporarily. Not a single scholar says he won’t be removed if the procedural defects are met. Yet you morons wail over him.
Honestly. How do you get to be so dumb?
This post was edited on 4/22/25 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:21 pm to RohanGonzales
So just to be clear, you’re comparing a federal U.S. immigration judge following established U.S. law to Roland Freisler, a N*zi judge who ran show trials and sentenced people to death? That’s not a serious argument.
If you don’t like a law, push to change it. But mocking due process and court rulings because you don’t like the outcome is exactly how the rule of law breaks down.
Garcia had a legal hearing, met the legal standard, and was granted protection under U.S. immigration law. Deporting was illegal, but again, you don’t care because you do not respect the law. You hate the constitution and believe Trump should have absolute power. Just say that’s what you want.
If you don’t like a law, push to change it. But mocking due process and court rulings because you don’t like the outcome is exactly how the rule of law breaks down.
Garcia had a legal hearing, met the legal standard, and was granted protection under U.S. immigration law. Deporting was illegal, but again, you don’t care because you do not respect the law. You hate the constitution and believe Trump should have absolute power. Just say that’s what you want.
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