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Posted on 7/12/14 at 10:09 pm to wfeliciana
Would you vote for HRC?
Posted on 7/12/14 at 10:10 pm to Smalls
Yes. I did in the primary and would do so again.
Posted on 7/12/14 at 10:12 pm to Smalls
So a woman who has been on the national stage since 1990 is polling in the upper 40s?
She has a 48% approval rating? That's down from when she first left as SoS.
That's not exactly stellar numbers.
It's going to be a governor from the GOP who's the nominee. Someone who can say they've gotten things done.
The country is tired of one screw up after another. I think they're going to go with someone with a record of accomplishment, which is why I think Scott Walker is going to be strong in the field.
And none of these guys is that well known to the country, and have not started campaigning.
She has a 48% approval rating? That's down from when she first left as SoS.
That's not exactly stellar numbers.
It's going to be a governor from the GOP who's the nominee. Someone who can say they've gotten things done.
The country is tired of one screw up after another. I think they're going to go with someone with a record of accomplishment, which is why I think Scott Walker is going to be strong in the field.
And none of these guys is that well known to the country, and have not started campaigning.
Posted on 7/12/14 at 10:12 pm to wfeliciana
I as well. 
Posted on 7/12/14 at 10:18 pm to Smalls
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I as well.
Excellent-we're few and far between on this board.
Posted on 7/12/14 at 10:21 pm to wfeliciana
I'm hoping to become more of a presence in these parts.
Posted on 7/12/14 at 10:44 pm to Smalls
Honest question to anyone saying they will vote for HRC in 2016, even if your views are way left with hers, what is it that inspires confidence that she can be a positive leader for the country? What specifically did she do in her time at the State department as for as great accomplishments? I am seriously trying to understand, no sarcasm.
Posted on 7/12/14 at 10:50 pm to wfeliciana
quote:Yeah, calling for some fiscal responsibility when we're $17,000,000,000,000 in debt is so fricking extreme. frick you and your ilk.
The Tea Party is too extreme--that's why most people dislike the Rs more than the Ds in Congress.
This post was edited on 7/12/14 at 10:52 pm
Posted on 7/12/14 at 10:53 pm to bigbowe80
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Honest question to anyone saying they will vote for HRC in 2016, even if your views are way left with hers, what is it that inspires confidence that she can be a positive leader for the country? What specifically did she do in her time at the State department as for as great accomplishments? I am seriously trying to understand, no sarcasm.
Well I'll give it a shot, but I probably won't do her justice. First, if you think HRC is way left then you really don't know her. In fact she's not loved by the far left of the Ds' She's a very pragmatic Democrat. She was great in the Senate, she worked very hard and she's very smart. She reached across the aisle all the time. Take a look sometimes at what other Republican senators had to say about her. Many Rs have gone on record (including Secty Gates, John McCain, etc.) to praise her intelligence, common sense, hard work, and willingness to solve problems.
There are accomplishments at State contrary to what most say, but the main thing she did in my opinion is that she made the world respect us again. Face it, after Iraq and Cheney, the world didn't have a great opinion of us. She is recognized and admired the world over.
ETA: One more thing-she is tough as nails.
This post was edited on 7/12/14 at 10:57 pm
Posted on 7/12/14 at 10:57 pm to wfeliciana
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I really hope HRC is the Democrat nominee.
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Probably not for the same reason I do.
I seriously believe she'll be the easiest Democrat candidate for the GOP to beat. People will have HRC fatigue and Democrats will be unmotivated by the time November 2016 rolls around.
Posted on 7/12/14 at 10:57 pm to wfeliciana
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She was great in the Senate
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There are accomplishments at State contrary to what most say, but the main thing she did in my opinion is that she made the world respect us again
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What specifically did she do
Not answered satisfactorily.
Posted on 7/12/14 at 10:59 pm to GumboPot
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I seriously believe she'll be the easiest Democrat candidate for the GOP to beat. People will have HRC fatigue and Democrats will be unmotivated by the time November 2016 rolls around.
May be but I think you are wrong. I guess we will see , if she runs.
Posted on 7/12/14 at 11:05 pm to bigbowe80
quote:
Honest question to anyone saying they will vote for HRC in 2016, even if your views are way left with hers, what is it that inspires confidence that she can be a positive leader for the country? What specifically did she do in her time at the State department as for as great accomplishments? I am seriously trying to understand, no sarcasm.
I think she would be more cooperative with Congress and actually get things done for the country. Obama is an academic who hates politics, while HRC is a bureaucrat who loves the political game. She'll be willing to compromise, make deals, and work with Congress, assuming the House 'tards can be contained.
I don't think you necessarily need great accomplishments as a predictor of success in the presidency. I can't name any MAJOR accomplishments from her time at State, but I'm not sure major accomplishments are needed. I think you have to look at the person's experience on the whole. Her whole life has been in politics. In the last 20+ years alone, 8 years in the WH, 8 in the Senate, 4 at State. She knows how the machine works.
It also helps that, aside from her views on abortion, which probably do not align with my own, we would agree on most policy issues, i.e. creating an environment favorable to business development while protecting the American worker and expanding the middle class.
This post was edited on 7/12/14 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 7/12/14 at 11:06 pm to CountryVolFan
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Not answered satisfactorily
Sorry if you aren't satisfied, he asked I answered as to what I thought. But I'll add another reason for me. Frankly I'm tired of electing people who are not competent. People can fanboy over Obama saying he could change politics, or fanboy a Libertarian who says he can change politics but the real truth is no that can't. They can't do it alone and they can't do it in 4-8 years. Reality is different. Reality is knowing how the system works, how to work with opposing views. Reality is understanding what the job of President entails, reality is understanding the world and foreign policy, reality is it takes intelligence and hard work. I'd like someone as President who is truly qualified.
Posted on 7/12/14 at 11:07 pm to bhtigerfan
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frick you and your ilk.
Part of what's wrong with our country today. You can't even have a basic discussion.
Posted on 7/12/14 at 11:08 pm to wfeliciana
quote:But you would vote for Hillary?
I'm tired of electing people who are not competent.
Posted on 7/12/14 at 11:10 pm to papasmurf1269
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But you would vote for Hillary?
Yes I would smurf. Who would you elect?
Posted on 7/12/14 at 11:10 pm to papasmurf1269
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I'm tired of electing people who are not competent.
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But you would vote for Hillary?
Please explain what you think is "competent".
This post was edited on 7/12/14 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 7/12/14 at 11:12 pm to wfeliciana
I don't know yet but you can bet your arse I wouldn't vote for that lying trash.
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