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re: Draft Order | Department of Education to be eliminated.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:35 am to AubieinNC2009
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:35 am to AubieinNC2009
The only thing they do that needs to continue (until we can get universities and college tuition under control) is student aid. And that can be moved to Treasury.
Title IX and other issues of fairness/discrimination can be handled by the DOJ.
Everything else can be left to the states.
Title IX and other issues of fairness/discrimination can be handled by the DOJ.
Everything else can be left to the states.
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Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:15 am to The_Duke
quote:seriously?
Why does Trump hate the Dept of Education? I can't figure this one out and not getting many hits online as to his reason or what he would replace it with.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:46 am to The_Duke
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Why does Trump hate the Dept of Education?
He doesn't. He's not operating on hatred. You're retarded.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:48 am to The_Duke
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If his premise is that the budget is being used to support Fed jobs and not progressing students then I can see how that ties into his overall thinking of Fed waste.
This is what Trump has been openly saying.
You are a genuinely slow person.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 2:05 am to loogaroo
This is a game changer. The other stuff Trump is doing fixes today's problems.
This will eliminate a large part of the problems 20 years from now. It's VERY IMPORTANT that education goes back to the states.
Obviously, smooth brain.
He's not going to replace it.
This will eliminate a large part of the problems 20 years from now. It's VERY IMPORTANT that education goes back to the states.
quote:
I can't figure this one out
Obviously, smooth brain.
quote:
what he would replace it with.
He's not going to replace it.
This post was edited on 3/6/25 at 2:07 am
Posted on 3/6/25 at 3:04 am to David Fellows
We’ve been teaching kids to read, write, and do their maths since the 1800s from little red school houses out on the prairie.
Effectiveness is based on the quality of our teachers, teacher to student ratio, strong administration to make sure the kids can pay attention (aren’t distracted from learning by one idiot waving a cane at the teacher in front of the rest of the class etc…).
All if the ingredients for success are local in nature where the rubber meets the road.
Bureaucrats thousands of miles away only hinder the process and were put there to implement control not to raise the quality of our kids education.
Removing then and giving the money they usurped directly to the states will be a tremendous improvement.
Like everything else government usually makes things worse so you want as little of it as possible, and local is better than remote.
County > State >>> Federal.
Local means faster feedback for the people to be able to impact things and shake it up when they inevitably start to frick things up.
Effectiveness is based on the quality of our teachers, teacher to student ratio, strong administration to make sure the kids can pay attention (aren’t distracted from learning by one idiot waving a cane at the teacher in front of the rest of the class etc…).
All if the ingredients for success are local in nature where the rubber meets the road.
Bureaucrats thousands of miles away only hinder the process and were put there to implement control not to raise the quality of our kids education.
Removing then and giving the money they usurped directly to the states will be a tremendous improvement.
Like everything else government usually makes things worse so you want as little of it as possible, and local is better than remote.
County > State >>> Federal.
Local means faster feedback for the people to be able to impact things and shake it up when they inevitably start to frick things up.
This post was edited on 3/6/25 at 3:15 am
Posted on 3/6/25 at 3:26 am to Jack Carter
quote:
This is what Trump has been openly saying.
You are a genuinely slow person.
Share the article or quote.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 4:29 am to Privateer 2007
quote:actors. they are just actors.
She dealt with coked up, roid fueled wrestlers
Posted on 3/6/25 at 4:44 am to loogaroo
Closing Dept of Ed is not that hard.
Retire all the employees.
Fold things like collecting statistics into the Dept of the Interior. You probably don't need more than a dozen employees retained and folded into Interior.
No more govt backed student loans. This is about $120B/yr.
Send a small portion of the budget back to the Treasury. The rest is given directly to the states in proportion to the number of US citizen students each one has. States can figure out student loans on their own with the money that gets sent to them.
Forgive all existing student loans. Give tax credits to those that paid their loans.
Get rid of all assets.
If Congress keeps appropriating money, send it right out to the states and let them figure out what's best for their state.
As time goes on, taxes are lowered so that money stays in the states and doesn't have to make that circuit through fedgov and back to the states.
Retire all the employees.
Fold things like collecting statistics into the Dept of the Interior. You probably don't need more than a dozen employees retained and folded into Interior.
No more govt backed student loans. This is about $120B/yr.
Send a small portion of the budget back to the Treasury. The rest is given directly to the states in proportion to the number of US citizen students each one has. States can figure out student loans on their own with the money that gets sent to them.
Forgive all existing student loans. Give tax credits to those that paid their loans.
Get rid of all assets.
If Congress keeps appropriating money, send it right out to the states and let them figure out what's best for their state.
As time goes on, taxes are lowered so that money stays in the states and doesn't have to make that circuit through fedgov and back to the states.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 4:56 am to The_Duke
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Nor does it explain why he hates the Dept.
because it doesn't work, making it a pointless waste of money
Posted on 3/6/25 at 5:02 am to loogaroo
I’m sure a lib judge in bumfrick NY will stop this from happening.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 5:07 am to The Cool No 9
When she completes her dismantling mission, yes.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 5:57 am to CAD703X
Do you not have eyes to see?
Posted on 3/6/25 at 6:08 am to The_Duke
quote:
Why does Trump hate the Dept of Education? I
Government program that should have never existed... Has the education in this country improved since it was created? The answer is NO, it has declined rapidly and most of that is attributed to stupid Federal mandates pushed down on States...
Posted on 3/6/25 at 6:12 am to The_Duke
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Why does Trump hate the Dept of Education? I can't figure this one out and not getting many hits online as to his reason or what he would replace it with.
Do you even Common Core or No Child Left Behind bro?
Posted on 3/6/25 at 6:19 am to PaperTiger
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I think it's all about the spending. Test scores nationally are down. Cost per to students keep going up. Here's one post by Elon that shows how much is wasted.
I think this has more to do with inflationary trends over the last 50 or so years. There is an element of the inability to hire people to work in public education - well at least full employment - that is due to onerous requirements and programs put upon educators. That’s not a liberal only thing. Remember, No Child Left Behind was a GOP scheme. Some adjustments in salaries at the school system or state level have been in hopes of retaining and recruiting staff.
This post was edited on 3/6/25 at 6:21 am
Posted on 3/6/25 at 6:44 am to loogaroo
Now do the IRS next.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 6:47 am to Diego Ricardo
I still think the biggest problem facing education in this country is on the parents. When I went to school and a teacher pointed out a need for improvement, the feel I got - and certainly was true with my parents - is they assumed the teacher was right and they corrected the child's behavior. That's just not how it works anymore. Hell, you can sort of see the general reason why on here at times. People act like the educators are to blame instead of being handed a bad hand from their school systems while having to deal with parents who take an adversarial posture with the educators.
My wife is in education. If all this leads to less standardized testing and seeds a more healthy relationship between the parents and the educators then it is a win. However, education will improve in this country when parents take an active role in their child's education. School is the foundation. My dad talked history with me and helped me with math. My mom essentially was an elementary school employee until my youngest sibling went to 6th grade. She volunteered for everything and enforced doing homework and assigned readings.
I'll tell you, this isn't happening with many households anymore. The achievement gap is built on the back of households who think they drop a kid off at school for 13-ish years and they come out the other end a fully functional citizen ready for college or the workforce. That is never how school worked and it never will be.
My wife is in education. If all this leads to less standardized testing and seeds a more healthy relationship between the parents and the educators then it is a win. However, education will improve in this country when parents take an active role in their child's education. School is the foundation. My dad talked history with me and helped me with math. My mom essentially was an elementary school employee until my youngest sibling went to 6th grade. She volunteered for everything and enforced doing homework and assigned readings.
I'll tell you, this isn't happening with many households anymore. The achievement gap is built on the back of households who think they drop a kid off at school for 13-ish years and they come out the other end a fully functional citizen ready for college or the workforce. That is never how school worked and it never will be.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:57 am to The Cool No 9
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So Vince McMahons wife is out of a job?
of course not. trump and his cronies will be gorging at the trough for years
Posted on 3/6/25 at 10:05 am to loogaroo
This is what I voted for.
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