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re: Dr Phil get's schooled about abortion
Posted on 9/13/22 at 4:28 pm to JiminyCricket
Posted on 9/13/22 at 4:28 pm to JiminyCricket
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When I was younger, I used to think that we could reason with people and if you made logical sound arguments, people would eventually see the light.
Only works with less than 10% of the population
Almost everyone is convinced by emotion prior to logical reasoning
That’s why story telling is so effective in changing peoples minds…
Hence why marxists took over Hollywood first
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Posted on 9/13/22 at 4:33 pm to Bard
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I've always considered constantly interrupting someone to be a sign of insecurity, as if they are afraid of what the other party is saying so they want to try to distract the other party from making a point they don't have a good response against.
this is why i don't watch cable news. Interrupting is all they do on every channel, first on Fox news and then the other channels wanted to be like them
Posted on 9/13/22 at 4:37 pm to theunknownknight
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Only works with less than 10% of the population Almost everyone is convinced by emotion prior to logical reasoning That’s why story telling is so effective in changing peoples minds… Hence why marxists took over Hollywood first
but you know, in politics, if you take that 10% in the middle, you win every time.
It seemed to me that she was trying to be sure she got the point across and heard by all viewers before Phil could cut her off and sell his media template. She knew that is what interviewers often do, so she took the initiative before Phil could.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 5:26 pm to loogaroo
Rather than reasoning with someone... Sometimes it is just better to knock em out.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 8:01 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:Abortion activists argue any time for any reason.
Sometimes. Next.
So why not any time, any reason for you?
Posted on 9/14/22 at 8:02 am to llfshoals
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Abortion activists argue any time for any reason.
Some of them do. Some anti-abortion people argue no abortions at any time for any reason.
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So why not any time, any reason for you?
Because I'm not a hypocrite.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 8:11 am to hubertcumberdale
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you used to think you could get everyone to agree with your personally held opinions if you made "logical sounds arguments?"
Not exactly. I'm not talking about personally held opinions. I'm not talking about opinions at all really. If you read what I said, I said if we as in collectively as a whole, present people with objective verifiable facts, they would see the truth. I don't feel that way anymore. People will mental gymnastic their way into whatever it is they want to believe, whether they have any data to back it up or not.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 8:14 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:”My entirely-arbitrary cutoff line is righteous and moral. Your entirely-arbitrary cutoff line is evil incarnate.”
Abortion activists argue any time for any reason.quote:
Some of them do. Some anti-abortion people argue no abortions at any time for any reason.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 8:15 am to GWM
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YES ! 100% settled,
Christopher Colombus sailed when the science was settled that the earth was flat too.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 8:17 am to ShermanTxTiger
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Christopher Colombus sailed when the science was settled that the earth was flat too.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 8:21 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Because I'm not a hypocrite.
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DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 9/14/22 at 8:22 am to AggieHank86
2 points here
1) It's disingenuous to present an "arbitrary cut-off line" argument in the context of folks opposing the termination of what you referred to yourself as "life" which begins at conception. One side is arguing that people don't have the right to murder others at any point in time while the other is arguing that you do indeed have the right to murder others in certain circumstances. (Murder being the key word here) Two vastly different positions and to comingle the two is just not an accurate representation of the two viewpoints.
2) Admittedly this is ad hominem, but do you try to come across as a smug, elitist arsehole in all your posts on purpose or is it just sort of a natural occurrence?
1) It's disingenuous to present an "arbitrary cut-off line" argument in the context of folks opposing the termination of what you referred to yourself as "life" which begins at conception. One side is arguing that people don't have the right to murder others at any point in time while the other is arguing that you do indeed have the right to murder others in certain circumstances. (Murder being the key word here) Two vastly different positions and to comingle the two is just not an accurate representation of the two viewpoints.
2) Admittedly this is ad hominem, but do you try to come across as a smug, elitist arsehole in all your posts on purpose or is it just sort of a natural occurrence?
Posted on 9/14/22 at 8:38 am to AggieHank86
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I have reached a similar conclusion regarding ideological zealots at ALL extremes of the political landscape.
What is the rights equivalent to the lefts assertion that men can have vaginas and get pregnant?
Posted on 9/14/22 at 8:42 am to JiminyCricket
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One side is arguing that people don't have the right to murder others at any point in time
That's not really the argument. These folks you're attempting to describe simply draw a line at conception.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 8:50 am to AggieHank86
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I have reached a similar conclusion regarding ideological zealots at ALL extremes of the political landscape
And there's none of significant influence on the right and it's the entirety of the left so your "both sides" schtick makes you look fricking stupid.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 8:51 am to AggieHank86
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entirely-arbitrary
Posted on 9/14/22 at 8:56 am to AggieHank86
quote:I don’t think you know what “arbitrary” means, or else you are misusing the word on purpose here.
”My entirely-arbitrary cutoff line is righteous and moral. Your entirely-arbitrary cutoff line is evil incarnate.”
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