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re: Dr. McCullough:Study shows Pfizer vax reverse transcribes & installs DNA into human genome
Posted on 7/11/22 at 2:53 pm to Meauxjeaux
Posted on 7/11/22 at 2:53 pm to Meauxjeaux
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Hey, which studies are more flawed? The ones in the OP here? Or the ones stating the vaccines would prevent Covid?
Studies themselves are often not flawed, but the conclusions drawn from them are.
They did oversell them but the vaccines did work early on, by providing immunity to early variants. The problem was they chose the spike protein as the target thinking it wouldn't mutate as much as other parts and were wrong. It mutated significantly and thus, the vaccine is significantly less effective now. This is also why the flu shot is so hit or miss (more miss).
The problem from this is taking a huge leap from this study and extrapolating it to mean more than it does. I have worked with immortalized cancer cell lines and primary cell lines particularly with DNA and RNA delivery. You can get lots of great data saying X is happening, but in reality it only happens in this specific circumstance and not in the real world.
Both sides of this idiotic debate are extrapolating, and it is just stupid. I am not even for the boosters at this point just to be clear.
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Posted on 7/11/22 at 2:55 pm to Gaggle
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You probably said it yourself on the internet
I'm glad you are now, retroactively, able to suss out who is a legitimate scientist and who is not but for the millions of Americans who believed the "top scientists" as promoted by our government and media, they may feel a bit lied to.
1) It did protect from the initial variants, then as they mutated into Delta (for example) that protection went down. They oversold them, no doubt.
2) Fauci is and has always been an idiot. You won't get any debate from me on that statement.
Posted on 7/11/22 at 2:56 pm to Geauxgurt
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I don't recall any legitimate scientist saying you could not get the virus if vaccinated.
Is CDC legitimate? It was posted EXACTLY as saying “prevents Covid” for more than a year.
Then they changed the definition of “vaccine”.
Don’t recall that, do you?
Posted on 7/11/22 at 2:57 pm to Jax-Tiger
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While this may be true, is it possible that what happens in an actual subject could be worse? Affect more than just the liver?
Is it possible? Yes. Is there any legitimate evidence to support that? No.
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What this tells me is that it is possible.
Again, it does not. It shows that Huh7 cells can have something like this happen under these specific conditions. There is no evidence that this translates from this study outside of this scenario.
That is why there needs to be more research done.
Posted on 7/11/22 at 2:59 pm to crazy4lsu
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Oh so it is publication record when relevant (i.e., trying to drown out criticism) and censorship when the appeal to authority falls apart. I see. Was it censorship when he published an early treatment protocol for COVID-19 in a journal published by Elsevier? Does it count as censorship when he testified in both the US Senate and then the Texas Senate? It doesn't seem like his ideas are all that censored to me.
Republicans invited him, genius.
Since you mentioned it, here’s an excerpt from his testimony:
“I can tell you what happened.
What happened at around May, it became known that the virus was going to be amenable to a vaccine.
All efforts on treatment were dropped.
The National Institutes of Health actually had a multi-drug program.
They dropped it after 20 patients. They said “we can’t find the patients.”
The most disingenuous announcement of all time!
And then Warp Speed went full tilt for vaccine development, and there was a silencing of any information on treatment.
Any. Silencing. Scrubbed from Twitter, YouTube.
You can’t get papers published on this. We can’t even get information out in our own medical literature on this!
There’s been a complete scrubbing.”
If you want to side with the mockingbird media, corrupt government, big pharma, big tech, etc., be my guest, but don’t expect me to be that dumb. People died because they were put on ventilators and given drugs that shut down their kidneys. Ivermectin, a totally harmless drug that could have saved lives, was attacked by the media and not even considered or allowed for treatment in many instances. I feel sorry for how blind you are.
This post was edited on 7/11/22 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 7/11/22 at 3:00 pm to Meauxjeaux
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Is CDC legitimate? It was posted EXACTLY as saying “prevents Covid” for more than a year.
They did say that, and it does control Covid-19's alpha and beta strains for up to a year. That is what they were working with at the time and what existed. The virus mutated, which was expected.
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Then they changed the definition of “vaccine”.
This is just stupid. Anyone that thinks any vaccine gives you 100% immunity against an illness shows their stupidity.
Hell, you can contract any virus multiple times technically. Weakened immune stats happen that allow for it.
With that said, no one is sitting here claiming these vaccines are perfect. They are very flawed and have some concerns that each person should consider when deciding to take it themselves or have their children take them.
Posted on 7/11/22 at 3:01 pm to Geauxgurt
quote:Oh ok. The conspiracy theorists will end up being right again, but there will be a logical horseshite explanation as to how they just got lucky, again. I'll see you then.
1) It did protect from the initial variants, then as they mutated into Delta (for example) that protection went down. They oversold them, no doubt.
Posted on 7/11/22 at 3:03 pm to Gaggle
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Oh ok. The conspiracy theorists will end up being right again, but there will be a logical horseshite explanation as to how they just got lucky, again. I'll see you then.
How does this make conspiracy theorists right? It was being developed against previous variants and it worked on them. The direction of the mutations was not predicted well and they wrongly still focus on pushing the initial vaccines. I disagree with that, but it wasn't a lie. They were overly optimistic on what the trends would be for the mutations, and here we are.
Posted on 7/11/22 at 3:04 pm to Geauxgurt
The vaccine doesn't work. It was predicted well. By people you didn't listen to.
This post was edited on 7/11/22 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 7/11/22 at 3:07 pm to FlexDawg
That's outstanding 
Posted on 7/11/22 at 3:12 pm to Geauxgurt
Isn't is stressful and confusing. This scientist is a hack, even though he leads our government org. This study is flawed, this one is bad but that one is ok. Yes it reverse transcribes but it may not change dna flow we don't know yet. Everything is fine as long as you keep reading the right studies and not the wrong ones and knowing which official top scientists is legit or not and that the reason it failed is ok because they didn't know it would and they'll still do good next time.
Like seriously you are so much better off just listening to the crazy tinfoil hat guy on the street and not getting it. I'm so free and blessed. Not sorry to rub it in.
Like seriously you are so much better off just listening to the crazy tinfoil hat guy on the street and not getting it. I'm so free and blessed. Not sorry to rub it in.
This post was edited on 7/11/22 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 7/11/22 at 3:13 pm to Geauxgurt
Being the “vaccine” was developed and distributed for injection in a very very short timeline leaves a lot of skepticism about what will and won’t be affected.
Also, skepticism is abound around the CDC and such not being able to produce not a single peer reviewed documentation for this “vaccine”.
Also, skepticism is abound around the CDC and such not being able to produce not a single peer reviewed documentation for this “vaccine”.
Posted on 7/11/22 at 3:14 pm to FlexDawg
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Republicans invited him, genius.
Are they not part of government?
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You can’t get papers published on this. We can’t even get information out in our own medical literature on this!
On what? Other treatments? A quick database search on PubMed shows that there were 26000 papers published between May 2020 and November 2020 about COVID-19 treatments. There were more than 1000 papers published on repurposed drugs and COVID in that same time frame. Frankly, this beggars belief and doesn't really seem to hold up to scrutiny.
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If you want to side with the mockingbird media, corrupt government, and big pharma, big tech, etc., be my guest, but don’t expect me to be that dumb. People died because they were put on ventilators and given drugs that shut down their kidneys. Ivermectin, a totally harmless drug that could have saved lives, was attacked by the media and not even considered or allowed for treatment in many instances. I feel sorry for how blind you are.
Well thankfully the floors don't lie. I too feel sorry for how busted your brain is. There isn't a treatment for that though.
Posted on 7/11/22 at 3:19 pm to Gaggle
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Everything is fine as long as you keep reading the right studies and not the wrong ones and knowing which official top scientists is legit or not and that the reason it failed is ok because they didn't know it would and they'll still do good next time.
You realize the one of the studies that was a direct influenced on this one was a study that showed SARS-CoV-2 infection did the same thing using the same transposon? Is that the wrong kind of study? Should I give in to the hysteria and describe the possible effects in the same manner as McCullough?
Posted on 7/11/22 at 3:20 pm to Geauxgurt
quote:And sometimes, you have to change the definition of the word "vaccine" to get things right. I'm not concerned though:
Studies themselves are often not flawed, but the conclusions drawn from them are.
Posted on 7/11/22 at 3:22 pm to crazy4lsu
You start off with "you realize" and I glaze over. That's a meme and tone of someone confronted. I don't have to be reassured of anything
Posted on 7/11/22 at 3:24 pm to Gaggle
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You start off with "you realize" and I glaze over. That's a meme and tone of someone confronted. I don't have to be reassured of anything
Damn, so sensitive. Seems like you probably 'glaze over' a lot.
Posted on 7/11/22 at 3:28 pm to crazy4lsu
I don't know what a transposon is. You don't really either but I'm sure you're studying frantically and now you're saying "you do realize" as if transposons are common knowledge. It's a hilarious sentence. I don't care. I don't have to give myself a headache. You're the one at stake. So keep pretending like you're totally a transposon expert and feel better
Posted on 7/11/22 at 3:31 pm to Geauxgurt
quote:Geneticists and doctors/scientists that ARE actually experts, for about 30 years prior to Covid, PROVED that mRNA technology was NOT safe and caused an unacceptably high onset of auto-immune diseases and other issues. It IS evil, because they KNEW it would hurt people, but as long as they could make billions with ZERO liability, I mean why not right?
The major problem here is many of these people simply clamp onto anything to justify their belief that the vaccines are pure evil, even when the studies are flawed or worse not even making the claims they are.
They want to trust a cardiologist over geneticists and doctors/scientists that actually are experts in this particular area. Somehow, it amazes me how much bull shite people will buy from someone because they have a non-relevant credential
Posted on 7/11/22 at 3:35 pm to Gaggle
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I don't know what a transposon is. You don't really either but I'm sure you're studying frantically and now you're saying "you do realize" as if transposons are common knowledge. It's a hilarious sentence. I don't care. I don't have to give myself a headache. You're the one at stake. So keep pretending like you're totally a transposon expert and feel better
Thankfully, I do know what a transposon due to my own credentials.
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