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re: DOW closes down 720 points after Trump's China tariffs

Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:43 pm to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48278 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:43 pm to
quote:

Again, these are the REAL numbers of where we are currently. This isn't opinion, it's pure data.


Let's look at the real numbers. What did the market open at January 20, 2008 and close march 20 2009. Do the same for January 20, 2017 and March 20,2018. What percentage growth is that? Then do it for the S&P. Let's see if you can be honest.
This post was edited on 3/22/18 at 5:48 pm
Posted by Dignan
Member since Sep 2005
13265 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:53 pm to
I can't argue with a moron. I should have expected this given your penchant for saying Barry Bonds never took steroids, but this....

You can't even debate when clear data is presented to you.

You have ZERO credibility and it's pointless to ever engage you in a rational discussion with true data.

Later loser.
Posted by Dignan
Member since Sep 2005
13265 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:54 pm to
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Let's look at the real numbers. What did the market open at January 20, 2008 and close march 20 2009


I used March 22nd, because that is TODAY. WTF does two days ago matter? Other than Trump's boneheaded decision that is driving the stock market down?
This post was edited on 3/22/18 at 5:55 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69282 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:56 pm to
Dignan, can you at least admit comparing a stock market recovering from a recession to a stock market increase not in a recession is comparing different things?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48278 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:57 pm to
And there it is. Two days is what you base your argument upon. Solid.
Posted by Dignan
Member since Sep 2005
13265 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:59 pm to
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Dignan, can you at least admit comparing a stock market recovering from a recession to a stock market increase not in a recession is comparing different things?


Yes, Hail, I can concede that point. However, Trump should probably not get all of the credit for how well the stock market did his first few months in office. It takes a little time to put policies in place. I don't know exactly what's fair- 3 months? 6 months? Who's to say? However, the flat growth the last 3 months is concerning.

I appreciate your tone, unlike retarded Barry Bonds' fan.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48278 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 6:00 pm to
No he can't. He can't even stick to HIS 14 month timeframe. You should check out his racist thoughts on what Alaska is like. He is a moron.
Posted by Dignan
Member since Sep 2005
13265 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 6:00 pm to
2 days, plus 14 months, since you can't count.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48278 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 6:01 pm to
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retarded


That isn't the preferred nomenclature, you racist bigot.
Posted by Dignan
Member since Sep 2005
13265 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 6:02 pm to
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No he can't. He can't even stick to HIS 14 month timeframe


I added two days and you think you won the argument. Bwahaha!

Stay gold.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48278 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 6:02 pm to
Your post:
quote:

GT, Why do you think the stock market made better gains during Obama's first 14 months in office compared to Trump?


Pipe down if you can't keep up.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48278 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 6:02 pm to
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added two days and you think you won the argument. Bwahah


It shows what a flawed argument you made if two days can change it so dramatically. Try to keep up
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 6:05 pm to
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That's why I keep saying that now, we get to run the real @real experiment, where he goes contrary to practically everyone to try to restore things to how he remembers it from 60+ years ago, stop all these countries from laughing at us, and all the other crap he talks to rile up the comrades. Keep in mind, this great economic mind bankrupted multiple casinos and underperformed index funds for 30+ years.


quote:

You're ignoring the fact that the Norks have achieved a new position of strength in the escalation of nuclear capability, so of course they're going to try to negotiate from this natural (temporary) stopping point. FFS, they mocked @real for all of 2017 by flying multiple ICBMs over Japan and exploding a thermonuclear bomb, and surprise, surprise, they used the occasion of the 2018 Olympics down south to extend an olive branch. It's laughable to think the name calling and nasty tweeting broke them.


This should absolutely be the end of the thread but sadly they will ignore you when you make this much sense.
Posted by Dignan
Member since Sep 2005
13265 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 6:06 pm to
You can't even add, idiot. You lowered Obama's numbers by more than 400 and added nearly 900 to Trump's numbers.

You're such a shill that you can't even add basic numbers.

I hope to God you didn't graduate from LSU.
Posted by Dignan
Member since Sep 2005
13265 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 6:08 pm to
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That isn't the preferred nomenclature, you racist bigot.



Well, if the foo shits.

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48278 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 6:13 pm to
Post the 14 month numbers. Your argument is worse than flimsy.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 6:43 pm to
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Let's look at the real numbers. What did the market open at January 20, 2008 and close march 20 2009. Do the same for January 20, 2017 and March 20,2018. What percentage growth is that? Then do it for the S&P. Let's see if you can be honest.
It's hard to navigate on my phone, so feel free to check for errors.

March 20, 2010 was a Saturday so I used the closing price on March 19th for both. So from 01/20 on their inauguration to 03/19 the following year we get:

S&P 500
Obama
01/20/09---805
03/19/10---1160

Trump
01/20/09---2270
03/19/10---2713

DJIA
Obama
01/20/09---8280
03/19/10---10742

Trump
01/20/09---19795
03/19/10---24611

Obama S&P Growth---44.1%
Trump S&P Growth-----19.5%

Obama Dow Growth---29.7%
Trump Dow Growth---24.3%

Obama's S&P growth seems awfully high so maybe someone could verify that (I used Yahoo Finance), but both the S&P 500 and Dow had greater growth in Obama's first 14 months.

Of course, the recession is an important caveat so Obama has the advantage of a regression towards the mean so more greater growth is expected following a steep decline.
This post was edited on 3/22/18 at 6:51 pm
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5831 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 6:53 pm to
The DOW is to high. It needs to drop at least another 1500 to start evening out.

It gained to much under Obama and Trump. It needs to drop slower than 1500 a week.

The tariff policy should hurt the DOW just like inflation news.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162212 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 7:15 pm to
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Let's look at the real numbers. What did the market open at January 20, 2008 and close march 20 2009.

You should be looking at January 2009 and March 2010.

I'll give you the benefit of a doubt that it's a brain fart
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48278 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 7:18 pm to
That's what I meant. Thanks.
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