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Posted on 1/23/20 at 3:41 pm to
Posted by BayBengal9
Bay St. Louis, MS
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 3:41 pm to
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He moved here when he was 14.


So he can't hate Russians?

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I mean this stuff is common basic knowledge in the cybersecurity world.


Is the use of tools to purposefully mislead and hide the origins of computer malware in order to "frame" other actors common basic knowledge in the cybersecurity world? I would think so, since it was released in the Snowden document dump, but I only took one semester of Comp Sci in college.
This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 3:42 pm
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43339 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 3:45 pm to
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Is the use of tools to purposefully mislead and hide the origins of computer malware in order to "frame" other actors common basic knowledge in the cybersecurity world?


Yes. And for security firms of that level, they are able to unobfuscate the malware to find the actual creator/groups using it.

Which is exactly what happened.

I mean that's what computer forensics and reverse engineering malware is all about.

SANS will teach you how to do it for a low price of $7k. I've got the cert to prove it.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123945 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 3:49 pm to
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Crowdstrike is completely above board... no reason to lie to the FBI about the "hack" (i.e. Seth Rich downloading emails)... no reason to lie about the Russians... most honorable, legit company on the planet.


This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 3:51 pm
Posted by BayBengal9
Bay St. Louis, MS
Member since Nov 2019
4171 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 3:51 pm to
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Yes. And for security firms of that level, they are able to unobfuscate the malware to find the actual creator/groups using it.

Which is exactly what happened.

I mean that's what computer forensics and reverse engineering malware is all about.

SANS will teach you how to do it for a low price of $7k. I've got the cert to prove it.


OK dude, you convinced me. Crowdstrike is totally legit... Seth Rich wasn't killed because he downloaded emails and sent them to Wikileaks... I'm a crazy conspiracy theorist.

Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
60055 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 3:51 pm to
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I'm a crazy conspiracy theorist.


Adam Schiff has said as much today.

Nine THOUSAND times.
Posted by Bdub79
Member since Aug 2018
39 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 3:53 pm to
William Binney does not agree with your alleged assessment.
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14947 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 3:59 pm to
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The RNC was broken into as well


Wasn't this only an attempted hack?

Repubs use better passwords.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146924 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 4:17 pm to
Don't forget Podesta's password 1234. He isn't in prison for doing the same thing but worse that Manafort did.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43339 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 4:23 pm to
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OK dude, you convinced me. Crowdstrike is totally legit


No, you convinced me. Four of the largest cybersecurity firms in the world, along with Dutch intelligence, all colluded to cover everything up.

I mean that's the obvious simple answer.

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43339 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 4:24 pm to
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William Binney does not agree with your alleged assessment.


The entire intelligence and commercial cybersecurity communities do.

But nevermind, one former NSA bubba with zero cybersecurity expertise invalidates all of it.

This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 4:25 pm
Posted by BayBengal9
Bay St. Louis, MS
Member since Nov 2019
4171 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 4:25 pm to
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William Binney does not agree with your alleged assessment.


Also a crazy conspiracy theorist... I mean, the guy said back in 2002 that the CIA was working on illegal mass data collection... what a loon.

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No, you convinced me. Four of the largest cybersecurity firms in the world, along with Dutch intelligence, all colluded to cover everything up.

I mean that's the obvious simple answer.


No no, you're totally right. When we're talking about someone becoming the leader of the free world (and who has already had dozens of people killed), there's NO CHANCE some crazy arse shenanigans would be going on.
This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 4:29 pm
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43339 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 4:32 pm to
Of course. Because the obvious answer is that four multi-billion dollar companies and a foreign intelligence service all colluded and not a single person leaked this grand conspiracy.

Do you know how fricking batshit insane you sound right now?

Next you'll tell me jet fuel doesn't melt steel beams, right bro?

Or maybe 9/11 was the Jews?

This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 4:33 pm
Posted by BayBengal9
Bay St. Louis, MS
Member since Nov 2019
4171 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 4:39 pm to
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Do you know how fricking batshit insane you sound right now?


Yeah yeah, Seth Rich was a Bernie Bro working at the DNC and made private statements to NUMEROUS people about how the DNC was manipulating the primary campaign against Bernie... 10 days (I think it was?) after Wikileaks published the DNC emails, he's murdered in a "botched robbery" where he was shot in the back of the head and had nothing stolen from him... the DC Metro Police never forensically analyzed his computer and destroyed it... and Assange offers a $50,000 reward for information on his murder.

But hey, I'm sure that was all a series of completely random coincidences.
Posted by GeauxCali
Member since Nov 2019
479 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 4:54 pm to
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Well, one of the co-founders was born in Russia, grew up in the Ukraine, immigrated to the US, and hates the Russians... but yeah, I'm not saying that means it's a "Ukrainian company."

he was born in Russia then moved to Canada at 14, then Tennessee a year later.

He never lived in the Ukraine.

He doesnt hate the Russians.

Crowdstrike is a publicly traded company founded in Sunnyvale CA. It has no connection to the Ukraine in any way.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43339 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 5:33 pm to
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Yeah yeah, Seth Rich was a Bernie Bro working at the DNC and made private statements to NUMEROUS people about how the DNC was manipulating the primary campaign against Bernie... 10 days (I think it was?) after Wikileaks published the DNC emails, he's murdered in a "botched robbery" where he was shot in the back of the head and had nothing stolen from him... the DC Metro Police never forensically analyzed his computer and destroyed it... and Assange offers a $50,000 reward for information on his murder.

But hey, I'm sure that was all a series of completely random coincidences.




Ok? What does this have to do with CrowdStrike or the other cybersecurity firms that analyzed the data?
Posted by voodoodawg
MAGA
Member since Sep 2012
658 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 6:07 pm to
So the data removed was not downloaded to a USB drive, even tho the download speeds indicate that were? Is that what you're saying?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43339 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 6:28 pm to
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So the data removed was not downloaded to a USB drive, even tho the download speeds indicate that were? Is that what you're saying?



So four separate cybersecurity firms are all covering for this conspiracy, is that what you're saying?

You fricking morons are what make this forum a goddamn laughing stock. You're no better than the idiots over at DU. You sound exactly like them in this thread, but you're too gullible to see it.

This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 6:30 pm
Posted by voodoodawg
MAGA
Member since Sep 2012
658 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 6:43 pm to
Thats not a real answer and I wasn't attacking you, but you seem to be getting more and more hostile. Now you are calling us all "fricking morons" for not playing along with you. Its been my experience that when people resort to this sort of behavior they really don't have anything else intelligent to say.

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Binney says the highest transfer rate was 49.1 megabytes per second, which is much faster than possible from a remote online connection. He says some colleagues challenged this assumption and ran various tests, from the Netherlands, Albania, Belgrade and in the UK and he says, "The fastest rate we got was from a data center in New Jersey...to a data center in the UK and that was 12 megabytes per second, which is less than a fourth of the rate necessary to transfer the data, as it was listed from Guccifer 2.0... However, it is the perfect download rate for a thumb drive ." He says their findings don't prove who did it but they do prove that the data breach was local and did not consist of an overseas hack.


Source

This seems plausible to me, and if its true, who downloaded the data?
Edit: Source provided
This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 8:27 am
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43339 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 6:52 pm to
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Binney says the highest transfer rate was 49.1 megabytes per second, which is much faster than possible from a remote online connection


This is utter horseshite. Even assuming your unsourced article was correct that it was megabytes per second and not megabits, 50 megabytes is roughly 400 megabits, less than half the speed of a gigabit connection. Which exist all over the world, and have for quite some time.

The fact you took this at face value without even researching the validity of the claim does indeed make you a fricking moron.






This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 6:55 pm
Posted by DreauxB2015
Member since Nov 2015
7726 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 6:56 pm to
Lets remember , House Rep had zero say in impeachment inquiry . Now we get to see them
unleash the PAIN.
This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 6:56 pm
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