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re: Donald J Trump- the man who saved our nation
Posted on 10/3/18 at 11:00 pm to RazorBroncs
Posted on 10/3/18 at 11:00 pm to RazorBroncs
Even if Trump is a stooge. Strides against political correctness have been made. The Overton window has moved. It's something that can be used
Posted on 10/3/18 at 11:09 pm to RazorBroncs
quote:Continued war in the Middle East.
Listen, I'm a million times more sceptical than the average Joe and I agree with what you're saying to an extent; but will you at least concede that Trump is a HUGE step in the right direction?
Building up of the MIC.
Extending government surveillance on its citizens.
Surrounding himself with establishment pillars like Bolton and Giuliani, etc.
Ignoring the FED.
And on and on and on.
What exactly has he done that gives you an indication that this is a HUGE step in the right direction?
quote:They are lifelong pals.
He and Hillary couldn't have been more opposite on the "establishment" scale
quote:What do you use as proof of that?
the American populace actually voted him in.
quote:Being fooled again by the establishment makes you proud? That's weird.
It was a proud moment for truthers and average folks alike.
Posted on 10/3/18 at 11:11 pm to genro
quote:Make no mistake about it, this country is frickED if that's of even the slightest significance.
Even if Trump is a stooge. Strides against political correctness have been made.
Posted on 10/3/18 at 11:14 pm to TX Tiger
Limiting the scope of acceptable speech and bashing the culture is of huge significance to them. Why do you think they have worked so hard to do so?
Posted on 10/3/18 at 11:17 pm to TX Tiger
quote:You will be judged for your arrogance, rebellion, and unbelief if you do not repent and serve the Lord who made you and bought you.
Using a myth in praise of a myth.....
Posted on 10/3/18 at 11:18 pm to Wild Thang
quote:
TX Tiger
You are as nuts as Dr. Ford
definitely
Posted on 10/3/18 at 11:20 pm to genro
quote:And, by "them" of course, you mean those filthy liberals, amirite?
Limiting the scope of acceptable speech and bashing the culture is of huge significance to them
I never thought you would get sucked into the game.
The establishment has definitely hit a home run with Trump. Before his "election" we were banding together to fight the establishment.
Post-Trump "election" he has successfully herded the hatred away from the establishment and placed it squarely at the feet of the other team.
That took some doing. I can't imagine anyone who could have done as good a job of it than the WWE Hall of Famer himself.
The establishment knows what it's doing.
Posted on 10/3/18 at 11:22 pm to FooManChoo
quote:Fear is a powerful tool, isn't it.
Using a myth in praise of a myth.....
You will be judged for your arrogance, rebellion, and unbelief if you do not repent and serve the Lord who made you and bought you.
Posted on 10/3/18 at 11:26 pm to TX Tiger
quote:
Trump is playing his role in the charade. Nothing more, nothing less. I believe deep down, you know that. You just don't want to accept it.
This is the most clever and well executed charade in history or Trump is the Swamp’s worst nightmare. I’ll go with the latter.
Posted on 10/3/18 at 11:27 pm to TX Tiger
quote:Leftism is an insidious virus and a major tentacle of their scheme. I can oppose it without becoming a neoRepublitard. I do see their Hegelian game. One side of the coin can be much worse, and I'm not on either
And, by "them" of course, you mean those filthy liberals, amirite?
quote:No we weren't
Before his "election" we were banding together to fight the establishment
quote:There was no need for Trump. They could've stuck Hillary in, there would have been bitching and then back to sleep. This is what you yourself said would happen the entire election cycle. They did not have to use Trump.
Post-Trump "election" he has successfully herded the hatred away from the establishment and placed it squarely at the feet of the other team.
quote:I'm not as impressed by them as you
The establishment knows what it's doing.
Posted on 10/3/18 at 11:28 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:Were you unconscious the previous eight years?
Trump is playing his role in the charade. Nothing more, nothing less. I believe deep down, you know that. You just don't want to accept it.
This is the most clever and well executed charade in history
Posted on 10/3/18 at 11:30 pm to TX Tiger
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See, that's the part I don't understand. Truth isn't depressing. It's the OPPOSITE of depressing. I guess that's just me. What's depressing is watching the establishment herd you folks with the same tricks it uses over and over and over again so that nothing ever changes. That's depressing.
What’s Trump need to do before you’ll believe he’s independent of the DC Swamp?
Posted on 10/3/18 at 11:31 pm to TX Tiger
You keep talking about trump and the establishment but give no credence to his efforts to root out corruption
The government is and always will be the establishment but it should do no harm to its citizens or be held accountable
Trump had to start somewhere, why not start with those that sold out their own people for personal gain?
The government is and always will be the establishment but it should do no harm to its citizens or be held accountable
Trump had to start somewhere, why not start with those that sold out their own people for personal gain?
Posted on 10/3/18 at 11:33 pm to TX Tiger
quote:key word - 'continued' as of halfway through his first term
Continued war in the Middle East.
quote:how? He hasn't torn it down exactly, but how is he "building it up?" "Continued" could be used here too.
Building up of the MIC.
quote:Another instance of "continued"
Extending government surveillance on its citizens.
quote:He's two years into his first foray into politics as the President of the US. There's a learning curve there... Id surround myself with those that had my back too. Did you expect all new faces with no experience as well?
Surrounding himself with establishment pillars like Bolton and Giuliani, etc.
quote:FOR NOW. And that's yet another "continued."
Ignoring the FED.
quote:
And on and on and on.
So you've literally dug up everything he hasn't changed YET and used it as evidence, even though he's done plenty in other areas. Its clear to anyone that he gives zero fricks about appeasing other politicians or lobbies and does what is best for the US when he can.
THAT'S why he's a HUGE step in the right direction.
Posted on 10/3/18 at 11:40 pm to genro
quote:Good, I thought I'd lost you there for a minute.
And, by "them" of course, you mean those filthy liberals, amirite?
Leftism is an insidious virus and a major tentacle of their scheme. I can oppose it without becoming a neoRepublitard. I do see their Hegelian game. One side of the coin can be much worse, and I'm not on either
quote:Yes, we were. I'd say we were as close to outright revolution as this country has ever been since the 60s. I'm amazed at how quickly people have forgotten that.
Before his "election" we were banding together to fight the establishment
No we weren't
quote:Let me refresh your memory of that conversation. You asked me what they would do with Trump. I said they would put their "anti-establishment" candidate in office AFTER Hillary had "her turn."
Post-Trump "election" he has successfully herded the hatred away from the establishment and placed it squarely at the feet of the other team.
There was no need for Trump. They could've stuck Hillary in, there would have been bitching and then back to sleep. This is what you yourself said would happen the entire election cycle. They did not have to use Trump.
The establishment correctly decided it couldn't wait eight years because we were fricking pissed and had just about enough of the establishment. They correctly chose to put their "anti-establishment" candidate in now instead of later.
I wish we could call up that conversation. It was a very interesting one, I thought.
quote:Undefeated in world history is rather impressive.
The establishment knows what it's doing.
I'm not as impressed by them as you
Posted on 10/3/18 at 11:42 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:It's too late. He's already tipped his hand (I've already given examples in this thread). He'd have to undo everything he's done so far and then go from there. Let me just say, I'm not going to hold my breath.
See, that's the part I don't understand. Truth isn't depressing. It's the OPPOSITE of depressing. I guess that's just me. What's depressing is watching the establishment herd you folks with the same tricks it uses over and over and over again so that nothing ever changes. That's depressing.
What’s Trump need to do before you’ll believe he’s independent of the DC Swamp?
Posted on 10/3/18 at 11:44 pm to TX Tiger
At some point you and the establishment need to admit you arent as smart as you think and you have been played
Posted on 10/3/18 at 11:45 pm to TX Tiger
quote:Expelled, banned, and slaughtered away from hundreds of countries that we know of. And they slither back in after memory fades. And we have never had technology available until now to let the whole world know or piece it all together for everyone. Yeah, they control that technology. But they didn't create it. They are not creators. Take it back.
Undefeated in world history is rather impressive.
This post was edited on 10/3/18 at 11:47 pm
Posted on 10/3/18 at 11:46 pm to TX Tiger
quote:
Before his "election" we were banding together to fight the establishment
Wait..... WHAT
It's clear to me that you're set in your assertions, and I may not agree with them but at least you're willing to have intelligent discussion. There's a lot here that aren't even capable of that, and then turn around and complain about this place becoming an echo chamber.
Your above sentence lost me though; if anything we were in the process of being lulled to sleep near the end of Obama's second term. The establishment had us right where they wanted us then - nobody saw someone / something like Trump actually making it.
See all of television leading up to the election for reference.
Posted on 10/3/18 at 11:49 pm to supatigah
quote:Root out corruption? The man has surrounded himself with some of the most egregious criminals in American history.
You keep talking about trump and the establishment but give no credence to his efforts to root out corruption
quote:Correct. So extending surveillance on its citizens isn't a good start, is it. Or sending our best and bravest halfway around the world to risk their lives for no other reason than to prop up the establishment and its Petro Dollar.
The government is and always will be the establishment but it should do no harm to its citizens or be held accountable
This doesn't sound like someone intent on saving our nation.
quote:He has teamed up with the Saudis to commit genocide in Yemen. He is continuing the establishment agenda in the Middle East, putting our best and bravest in harm's way to strengthen the hold the establishment has on us and the rest of the world.
Trump had to start somewhere, why not start with those that sold out their own people for personal gain?
That's where he started.
No thank you, sir.
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