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re: Dollar General Employee Charged With Manslaughter After Killing Armed Robber in LA
Posted on 1/9/23 at 9:33 am to Aubie Spr96
Posted on 1/9/23 at 9:33 am to Aubie Spr96
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Armed robbery should supersede shooting someone in the back. If you stick a gun in someone's face and steal their money, a potential outcome of that could be getting shot in the back when you turn to leave. If the clerk had attempted to draw their weapon while the robber was facing them, they could have been shot.
Exactly. There are countless stories of armed robberies where the robber turned to leave, sometimes even walked out of the store/house/business, and then turned around, came back in, and off'ed a clerk/employee/homeowner.
I can say with absolute certainty if someone robbed me at gunpoint, I would shoot them as soon as a safe opportunity presented itself, and if that was in the back when they turned away from me, so be it. I'd be willing to accept the legal consequences.
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 9:35 am to djmed
The first thread about this subject also indicated the guy just closed up shop and went home after the shooting. While I respect his business as usual approach, he’s got a tough road ahead.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 9:47 am to AggieHank86
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It's a shame that you can't shoot somebody that's stealing your property.
The underlying legal presumption is that a human life is worth more than "stuff."
That validity of that presumption is certainly subject to reasonable debate.
Of all your ridiculous comments across this board, you are now clearly intentionally twisting the underlying premise at issue in this shooting. The dead guy is dead not because he stole a pack of gum. The dead guy is dead because by pointing a gun at the person who shot him dead the dead guy communicated that he came from a failed culture and he had no concern about taking the life of the guy who shot him dead. Shooter got lucky to get out of there alive.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 9:50 am to AggieHank86
A movie ticket stub is worth more than the un-redeemed life of a criminal who endangers the lives and livelihoods of innocent people.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 9:54 am to VolcanicTiger
Let's say its a serial killer that someone fends off and shoots in the act of fleeing.
This individual has killed before, just tried to kill someone and will kill again.
Should the victim(yes victim) be charged?
This individual has killed before, just tried to kill someone and will kill again.
Should the victim(yes victim) be charged?
Posted on 1/9/23 at 9:56 am to djmed
I can’t preach it enough: Where you live matters.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 9:57 am to TheCurmudgeon
quote:How?
you are now clearly intentionally twisting the underlying premise at issue in this shooting
I outlined WHY the law historically has not allowed one person to unilaterally kill another person for theft.
And then I said that it is reasonable to discuss the validity of that underlying premise.
What specifically am I "twisting?"
This post was edited on 1/9/23 at 10:15 am
Posted on 1/9/23 at 10:05 am to djmed
Posted on 1/9/23 at 11:03 am to djmed
shite like this never happens at Dollar Tree.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 11:16 am to djmed
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attempted to leave the store, the employee pulled out a gun and fired more than one shot in his direction. The suspect was hit along with an innocent bystander
Shooting him while he was leaving and accidentally hitting an innocent is the problem here. Now the robber deserved it, and I probably wouldn’t vote to convict if I were on the jury, but based on how self defense laws are written this is why he was charged. Never shoot them in the back
Posted on 1/9/23 at 11:20 am to djmed
Ridiculous. How many robbers kill the people who see their face or just to make sure there are no witnesses? I watched a documentary on Netflix just last week where this happened.
Just because robber appears to be fleeing doesn’t mean your life isn’t still very much in danger.
Not fricking guilty.
Just because robber appears to be fleeing doesn’t mean your life isn’t still very much in danger.
Not fricking guilty.
This post was edited on 1/9/23 at 11:21 am
Posted on 1/9/23 at 11:28 am to AggieHank86
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It's a shame that you can't shoot somebody that's stealing your property.The underlying legal presumption is that a human life is worth more than "stuff." That validity of that presumption is certainly subject to reasonable debate.
I’m of the opinion if the perp forcefully enters your home or car even without a weapon to steal, you should be able to shoot them as long as they’re on your property whether they are armed or not and doesn’t matter if they’re retreating.
But I’m a big believer in private property rights and being able to protect your property from criminal intruders
Posted on 1/9/23 at 11:42 am to AggieHank86
Still waiting, Curmudgeon.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 11:47 am to AggieHank86
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Prediction: This thread will devolve into name-calling by (i) those who think this is just fine because a criminal is dead and against (ii) those who largely-agree but who also understand the applicable law.
Calling you PedoHank isn't devolving into name-calling, it's a basic statement of fact. Also you've offered nothing to the conversation. frick you.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 11:49 am to djmed
Just out for a loaf of bread. Didn’t have any money because of racism so he just thought of getting his reparations in advance to pay for bread. Where is that humanity of people
Posted on 1/9/23 at 11:51 am to Roaad
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Who's to say he doesn't come back in to eliminate witnesses
He could also be faking being incapacitated.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 11:54 am to AggieHank86
quote:the human life, if endangering others and presenting deadly threat to all other human life in the vicinity is worth far less than any "stuff" at that moment.
The underlying legal presumption is that a human life is worth more than "stuff."
Their elimination justified
Posted on 1/9/23 at 11:56 am to deltaland
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I’m of the opinion if the perp forcefully enters your home or car even without a weapon to steal, you should be able to shoot them as long as they’re on your property whether they are armed or not and doesn’t matter if they’re retreating.
If someone breaks into your home or vehicle you can shoot them weapon or not
Posted on 1/9/23 at 11:58 am to TheCurmudgeon
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you are now clearly intentionally twisting the underlying premise at issue in this shooting.
Is this a day ending in "Y" ?
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