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re: DOJ argues Comey novel shows he knew ‘86 47’ post was a threat against Trump

Posted on 8/20/26 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 8/20/26 at 3:43 pm to
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Just as with the perjury charge, there is ZERO chance that Comey will ultimately serve time for this


That doesn't address the truth though.

Comey clearly was trying to toe the line while trying to promote a message advocating violence.

That our legal system isn't capable of convicting him for that doesn't change the truth.

Like many lawyers, you seem to have lost sight of objective truth and replaced it with what can be proven in a court of law. Those are two very different things.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 8/20/26 at 4:00 pm to
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I don’t recall this being a thing like 8647 is and was. We don’t see normal people celebrating assassinations, so safe to us to assume it wasn’t a thing.


Comey’s May 2025 post was almost four months BEFORE Charlie Kirk's September 2025 assassination. What does the behavior of horrible people regarding Charlie have to do with Comey’s intent?

Below is Jack Posobiec's post of "8646." I think you want the law applied differently against our enemies...the very definition of lawfare which I had hoped we were past after the lawfare against Trump.

Maybe you think turnabout is just fair play. I understand that. I just disagree with using the judicial system that way.

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This post was edited on 8/20/26 at 4:01 pm
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 8/20/26 at 4:19 pm to
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That doesn't address the truth though.
Comey clearly was trying to toe the line while trying to promote a message advocating violence.
That our legal system isn't capable of convicting him for that doesn't change the truth.
Like many lawyers, you seem to have lost sight of objective truth and replaced it with what can be proven in a court of law. Those are two very different things.


I absolutely venerate objective truth. WITHIN THE CONFINES of our legal system, however, it is objectively true that Comey will not ultimately be convicted. Of course, I have no idea whether Comey really meant to threaten President Trump or to incite violence against him.

Unless Comey comes out and admits that he committed the crime, unfortunately, he will walk free. The Constitution gives defendants the presumption of innocence. The prosecution won't be able to overcome that. If you can think of a better way to decide guilt than our current system, I'm all ears.

I apologize if this sounds obnoxious, but if we had a question about flying a C-130, for instance, we would want to hear from Jbird about that. The difference is there isn't a thriving industry stirring false impressions and hopes about how to fly C-130s. Regarding legal outcomes, unfortunately, there is.

This post was edited on 8/20/26 at 4:22 pm
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 8/20/26 at 5:00 pm to
Why are we wasting tax payers money on sea shell numbers? This isn't like trumps personal lawsuits, we actually have to pay our attorneys for their time.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 8/20/26 at 5:34 pm to
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Comey’s May 2025 post was almost four months BEFORE Charlie Kirk's September 2025 assassination. What does the behavior of horrible people regarding Charlie have to do with Comey’s intent?


This in no way disproves what everyone, outside of you, already knows about liberals embracement of assassination culture and trump hate.
This post was edited on 8/20/26 at 5:36 pm
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 8/20/26 at 5:35 pm to
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WITHIN THE CONFINES of our legal system, however, it is objectively true that Comey will not ultimately be convicted


The truth is more important.

Like I said, that our legal system cannot align with objective truth is just a shortcoming of our system.

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Of course, I have no idea whether Comey really meant to threaten President Trump or to incite violence against him.



Well, that's just dishonest.

Your entire post continuously mixes objective truth with what can be proven. I don't know if it's intentional or unintentional. But, as I've said, I've seen this among attorneys a lot.


Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42258 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 5:38 pm to
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Like many lawyers, you seem to have lost sight of objective truth and replaced it with what can be proven in a court of law. Those are two very different things.


Now it makes so much sense. The dude isn’t truly dumb, he just acts dumb like some or all lawyers do.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10244 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 6:46 pm to
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The rotten motherfrickers know exactly what they have called for & to sit up here & defend it & make excuses is despicable



Who is making excuses? I'm just telling you why Comey won't be convicted.

The first two assassination attempts on Trump happened before Comey’s post. Are you claiming he incited them?

Why the plural? Is some other motherfricker other than Comey on trial?

This post was edited on 8/20/26 at 6:56 pm
Posted by OU81TOO
Member since Jul 2024
305 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 7:00 pm to
Looks like you're dealing with a disciple of SFP. Poster treating every thread as a court case. Please stop responding. Everyone with a functioning brain knows what "86" means and it doesn't mean the onions from your burger.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63665 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 7:49 pm to
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Who is making excuses? I'm just telling you why Comey won't be convicted.


You are arguing with yourself.

Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10244 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 10:14 pm to
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Well, that's just dishonest.

Your entire post continuously mixes objective truth with what can be proven. I don't know if it's intentional or unintentional. But, as I've said, I've seen this among attorneys a lot.



What was dishonest? None of us knows what Comey actually intended. He's not going to confess that "8647" was a threat against the President.

Therefore, the prosecution is going to have to prove Comey’s guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. I have laid out how, objectively, they will not be able to do that.
This post was edited on 8/20/26 at 10:33 pm
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10244 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 10:17 pm to
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Poster treating every thread as a court case.


Lol. We're literally talking about a court case.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 8/20/26 at 10:24 pm to
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DOJ argues Comey novel shows he knew ‘86 47’ post was a threat against Trump


1) Should they be charging this scumbag for even more serious crimes? Yes.

2) Did this POS know exactly what he was doing here? Of course he did. This was obviously meant as a dog whistle to encourage others to take Trump out.

Anybody who claims otherwise is either lying or else they're dumber than a box of rocks.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
37467 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 10:31 pm to
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it is objectively true that Comey will not ultimately be convicted.

This is obviously your ultimate conclusion and the basis upon which you build your entire argument. But I see a bit of a flaw that may well call the entire argument into serious question. My retort would be this: just as a general matter, how exactly does one produce an “objectively true” conclusion about the outcome of an event that hasn’t occurred yet?
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