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re: DOJ Again Refuses to Give Judge Boasberg Sensitive Information on National Security

Posted on 3/19/25 at 3:05 pm to
Posted by LSUFAITHFUL2
Member since Feb 2024
151 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 3:05 pm to
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He literally is.


I don’t disagree. It’s folks like SFP that seem to think that Trump just used this statute as a quicker and easier way to deport run of the mill criminal illegals.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
8682 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 3:06 pm to
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"But drUmpf cant use the alien enemies act because TDA isnt aligned with a foreign government!!!"
-said the retards


only trump has said that the government of Venezuela was behind this...no evidence supports that, and the DOJ is failing to provide any to the judge.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
43829 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 3:07 pm to
SFP is just going to be a contrarian 100% of the time. His argument has been whittled down to his personal opinion that TDA shouldn't be designated as a terrorist group. I'd advise you ignore him unless your responses are for mockery or pwnage purposes.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
13954 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 3:07 pm to
They don't have to. The judge has no standing in this matter.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
451543 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 3:08 pm to
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tren de aragua is a designated terrorist group, and the stuff they do to people is certainly terror. seriously go frick yourself


I have never seen this level of unified emotional reaction on this board...or at least since the same tactics were used to support the invasion of Iraq.

This is some crazy psychological experiment going on in real time and it's fascinating.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
43829 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 3:08 pm to
did you read the post I was responding to? They are globally known to be aligned with Maduro's cartel. This is only disputed by the Maduro regime and American democrats... Birds of a feather
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
451543 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 3:08 pm to
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It’s folks like SFP that seem to think that Trump just used this statute as a quicker and easier way to deport run of the mill criminal illegals.

That's literally what is going on.

You can ree all you want, but they could have expedited ordinary deportation proceedings to Venezuela like they have with other criminals.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
451543 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 3:09 pm to
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did you read the post I was responding to? They are globally known to be aligned with Maduro's cartel. This is only disputed by the Maduro regime and American democrats... Birds of a feather


If only the administration had to prove this in court
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
33435 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 3:10 pm to
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They don't have to. The judge has no standing in this matter.

His court would have jurisdiction to rule on a case where a person within the district-- i.e. someone being deported under the statute-- challenged the statue's application.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
13954 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 3:11 pm to
Are you insinuating that Repubs and Dems weren't unified in going into Iraq in 2003?
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
18185 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 3:11 pm to
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No but he is obligated to explain why it’s a state secret. he can’t just say “sorry state secret” otherwise the Government would never disclose anything.


Huh??? That's exactly what Smith did in the Mar A Lago frick show!!!
Once again, Trump is not obligated to explain matters of national security. It's his determination what can or can't be revealed/discussed.
Not a federal judge.
Posted by LSUFAITHFUL2
Member since Feb 2024
151 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 3:11 pm to
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That's literally what is going on.


Sure, just keep ignoring all things I cited…like The NY Times, the Chilean Govt, the Miami Herald, and LMaduro’s opposition (the rightly elected VZ govt) that agree with Trump—-that Maduro is running TdA.
Posted by LSUFAITHFUL2
Member since Feb 2024
151 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 3:12 pm to
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That's literally what is going on.


Sure, just keep ignoring all things I cited…like The NY Times, the Chilean Govt, the Miami Herald, and Maduro’s opposition (the rightly elected VZ govt) that agree with Trump—-that Maduro is running TdA.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 3:16 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75572 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 3:12 pm to
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Unless said action is non justiciable as this one is.


whether his actions fall under this law is justiciable.

like Ludecke was able to challenge whether a declared war was going on if hostilities had stopped.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
8682 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 3:13 pm to
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They don't have to. The judge has no standing in this matter.


They do. you cant just pull out this uno card and get to bypass the constitution with zero evidence to support your reasoning. You in some way have to prove that the judge has no standing in this matter. Otherwise someone should be held in contempt of court for defying a judges order hours before a court date
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75572 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 3:13 pm to
keep reading the sentence for the important part.

Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25931 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 3:13 pm to
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If only the administration had to prove this in court


If only there was a co-equal branch that could check such executive power and provide protections to the use of a law it passed that it wanted implemented by the executive.
Posted by LSUFAITHFUL2
Member since Feb 2024
151 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 3:14 pm to
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If only the administration had to prove this in court


Supreme Court says he doesn’t have to. Not justiciable.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
13954 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 3:14 pm to
They don't in this matter.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
8682 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 3:15 pm to
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did you read the post I was responding to? They are globally known to be aligned with Maduro's cartel. This is only disputed by the Maduro regime and American democrats... Birds of a feather


A cartel is not a nation or government. It doesnt fall under the aliens enemies act unless the Venezuelan government specifically told them to invade. Again this act has not be used in any times that were not declared war times. Lets be honest 200 people is not really an invasion or an incursion .
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