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re: Does the possibility of Bush/Ryan/Rove support of RDS bother RDS supporters?

Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:37 pm to
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33380 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:37 pm to
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I read the excerpt from his book that goes over his view of the Iraq war and foreign policy in general and it differs from theirs

Naive af.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297478 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:38 pm to
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Did he fire Fauci or leave him in charge?


Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
16993 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:39 pm to
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different eras


But same wing of the Uniparty

I voted for Mitt Romney so that means I voted for Paul Ryan. I voted for John McCain. I voted for George W Bush, twice.

I’m done with them. They lied to me for my entire adult life and I cannot unsee it.

I’m not voting for their proxy.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21874 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:39 pm to
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I have zero problems with Trump’s handling of Covid.

Like I said, it's alarming that you're unaware of don't understand.

And you didn't mention Trump extending Fisa and signing off on the creation of CISA, where your personal liberties are concerned.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41508 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:39 pm to
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Desantis and his practiced “porn star” zinger tells me that he’s not the one making the decisions. I hope I’m wrong.



And Trump's shite slinging calling Ron a pedo, calling him gay, insulting his wife calling a GOPe stooge when there is literally nothing in his record otherwise but solid conservative governance that has made his state a model for the rest of America doesn't bother you?

DeSantis is demonstrably more conservative and better government executive on every level than Trump. There is literally nothing in his ACTUAL record to draw any other conclusion. Trump is full of shite and some random nobody on Fox doesn't validate shite.

Its laughable how you Only Trumpers think you are somehow woke when you are nothing but pathetic sheep incapable of thinking beyond what Trump messages to you.

Posted by Message Board User
Member since Dec 2006
6956 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:39 pm to
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You cannot logically support Trump and claim you're concerned with financial (big spending/deficits and pro-Entitlement) or liberty (YUGE supporter of the police state) issues


For people who came to their conclusions through emotion, you cannot confront them with logic.

Which is why it's fruitless to point out the incredible hypocrisy and double standards and outright lies of the room temperature IQ MAGA movement - for them it's all about emotional investment in one person and they will twist themselves in knots to explain why Trump will drain the swamp during a 2nd term when he did no such thing during his first.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297478 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:40 pm to
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I’m done with them.


That's what I thought.

Y'all have been separated from the only party of dissent left. You folks will not be able to support conservative causes or candidates ever again.
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
14261 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:41 pm to
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I’m done with them. They lied to me for my entire adult life and I cannot unsee it.



I don't like the establishment, but it does take a coalition to win elections.

You want a party so pure that it would never challenge the Democrats nationally
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
16993 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:42 pm to
You’re so right - the “impeachments” were a real show of Republican Party support and dissent
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297478 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:43 pm to
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I don't like the establishment, but it does take a coalition to win elections.


Which is where Trumpism failed.

You cannot alienate over half the country and win.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466946 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:43 pm to
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But same wing of the Uniparty

You can't even define "Uniparty" with a specific definition

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They lied to me for my entire adult life and I cannot unsee it.

You're seeing what you're being told to see, which doesn't reflect reality.

Also, I'm the guy who called John McCain the worst US politician back when you'd have fought me to defend his honor.
This post was edited on 3/26/23 at 12:45 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297478 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:44 pm to
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Which is why it's fruitless to point out the incredible hypocrisy and double standards and outright lies of the room temperature IQ MAGA movement


They've bought into this "Us vs the world" mentality, it will not end well for them.

Politics is nothing but a popularity contest.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466946 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:45 pm to
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You’re so right - the “impeachments” were a real show of Republican Party support and dissent


muh impeachment

What did the impeachments do other than give the Left a symbolic victory?

Why are you melting down over something that doesn't matter?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:45 pm to
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And to make it even worse, Georgia, Arizona, and Wisconsin were solidly red states.


WI has always been a swing state.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297478 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:46 pm to
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WI has always been a swing state.


Facts don't matter to people who run on feelings.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:47 pm to
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If Donny could learn to work with people instead of alienate them, he was still be POTUS today.



This right here.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29473 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:49 pm to
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I voted for Mitt Romney so that means I voted for Paul Ryan. I voted for John McCain. I voted for George W Bush, twice.


Ryan was part of a different generation and is more conservative than Romney. Believe it or not, they aren't the same people. Pence does not equal Trump, for example.

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I’m not voting for their proxy.


You already had your mind made up to vote for the less conservative, more dysfunctional, and less effective option, I get it. Not to mention the one who is radioactive among independents.

But you're a complete moron if you think DeSantis, a former backbencher who advocated for Trump, is a part of the establishment. And are willing to give up the Court and thus the Republic forever as a result.
This post was edited on 3/26/23 at 12:50 pm
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
16993 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:49 pm to
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I don't care about the other histrionics and NPC talking points you listed


What specific histrionics and NPC talking points are you referring to in the OP.

The ones that said is this true? Or the one that said how does this guy know?

If you’re fine with a Jeb Bush running the country, it’s ok to have that view. I just think that wordlview has wrecked us as bad as democrats and both far worse than mean tweets.

Posted by Message Board User
Member since Dec 2006
6956 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:50 pm to
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I don't like the establishment, but it does take a coalition to win elections.

You want a party so pure that it would never challenge the Democrats nationally


100%.

I don't care if the GOP can win Wyoming, Alabama, and Mississippi by 40 points.

I care if the GOP candidate can win Arizona, Georgia, and Pennsylvania.

Politics is about winning and power. That's it. And if you can't win then nothing else matters.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29473 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 12:52 pm to
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mean tweets.


I like how this has become a rallying cry. Trump's childish social media behavior is not a positive. It's way down on the list for those of us who want the more conservative and effective option. But it's not some positive for Trump. I'd rather the leader of the movement not waste time and look like a retard.
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