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re: Does Memorial Day include confederate soldiers?
Posted on 5/28/24 at 12:48 pm to Evolved Simian
Posted on 5/28/24 at 12:48 pm to Evolved Simian
Confederate Memorial Day used to be a state holiday in Alabama. Don’t know if they still acknowledge it now.
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 1:36 pm to pankReb
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Do you think the government should be able to torture illegal immigrants? Jail them forever with no due process(which would absolutely lead to actual citizens being arrested and not able to prove their innocence)?
Not really sure I get the connection, unless you believe illegals are no different than citizens and trying to throw some kind of extreme example out to justify your belief.
Sending them back immediately and seal up the spigot. Like we use to. We aren't the first generation of Americans to see how unfettered immigration will hurt our nation, so not some "unAmerican" idea.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 1:39 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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If you want to have laws that restrict people from purchasing and possessing firearms, how do you enforce them?
I'm not talking about everyday legal Americans. Why you keep clumping them up with illegals shows that you don't see being a citizen as being something special.
Send them back. Ain't that hard and has been done before. IDC about their feelings, I hope they learned something while here and improve their nation.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 1:42 pm to Tasseo
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I'm not talking about everyday legal Americans.
Neither am I.
Now you can answer the question.
If you want to have laws that restrict people from purchasing and possessing firearms, how do you enforce them?
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Why you keep clumping them up with illegals shows that you don't see being a citizen as being something special.
I'm going to demonstrate that you don't know what you're asking for...if you decide to participate in the discussion.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 4:31 pm to 14&Counting
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Confederate Memorial Day used to be a state holiday in Alabama. Don’t know if they still acknowledge it now.
It still is. State employees get the day off, but nobody else in the state does.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 4:58 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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No. Just because Confederates were pardoned doesn't mean we honor them. They were traitors who fought against and killed U.S. military personnel, and that's what they should be remembered for.
It's only half time m***er f***er.
I hate a fricking suckeye.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 4:58 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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No. Just because Confederates were pardoned doesn't mean we honor them. They were traitors who fought against and killed U.S. military personnel, and that's what they should be remembered for.
How are they traitors when they fought for their home country? Even if you want to pretend their loyalty was to a federal government and not their state (which would make you completely ignorant of history), seceding from a government that no longer represents your interests does not make one a traitor. If you think that makes one a traitor, then you are clearly a bootlicking statist. Governments serve the people, not the other way around. You can't betray something that doesn't represent you.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 6:13 pm to scrooster
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No. Just because Confederates were pardoned doesn't mean we honor them. They were traitors who fought against and killed U.S. military personnel, and that's what they should be remembered for.
It's only half time m***er f***er.
I hate a fricking suckeye.
Yes, but we thank him for his service.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 6:25 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
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How are they traitors when they fought for their home country?
...because I'm an American.
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Even if you want to pretend their loyalty was to a federal government and not their state (which would make you completely ignorant of history), seceding from a government that no longer represents your interests does not make one a traitor.
My maternal grandmother was born and raised in Alabama. I'm well aware of the revisionist history passed around in the South.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 6:25 pm to scrooster
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It's only half time m***er f***er.
What's the plan to turn it around in the second half?
Posted on 5/28/24 at 6:26 pm to Boss13
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Lincoln pardoned all confederate soldiers after the war and wanted to welcome the south back into the country. If he had the wisdom to do that right after the conflict, I feel it's appropriate to honor them as well, despite their cause.
Lincoln never recognized the Confederacy as a sovereign nation. They were states in rebellion, therefore American soldiers.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 6:37 pm to Sixafan
Yes
Posted on 5/28/24 at 6:38 pm to Sixafan
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all confederate soldiers were granted a full pardon by president Jackson.
History major??
Andrew Jackson died 16 years before the Civil War started.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 6:40 pm to TheFolker
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So like Juneteenth that everybody suddenly acts like has always been a huge thing.
Yeah what the hell was that. Honestly. It was just another opportunity for faux outrage and segregation instigated by the black community. We should segregate tax dollars, think they might acknowledge July 4 again.
Edit: whoever downvoted this is a white cuck for black America
This post was edited on 5/28/24 at 7:44 pm
Posted on 5/28/24 at 6:40 pm to LSURussian
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all confederate soldiers were granted a full pardon by president Jackson.
History major??
Andrew Jackson died 16 years before the Civil War started.
It's Ok, I think he meant Lincoln.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 6:41 pm to AU86
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Three hundred thousand Yankees
Is stiff in Southern dust,
We got three hundred thousand
Before they conquered us.
They died of Southern fever
And Southern steel and shot,
I wish they was three million
Instead of what we got.
Yeehaw! The south will rise again!!!!
Posted on 5/28/24 at 6:45 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:If so then he (and you) would still be wrong.
It's Ok, I think he meant Lincoln.
President Andrew Johnson pardoned all civil war Confederate soldiers on Christmas Day, 1868, more than three years after Lincoln died.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 6:47 pm to LSURussian
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It's Ok, I think he meant Lincoln.
If so then he (and you) would still be wrong.
President Andrew Johnson pardoned all civil war Confederate soldiers on Christmas Day, 1868, more than three years after Lincoln died.
Cool stuff, I just know there are more people in prison from the Faux J6 Insurrection than Confederate loyalists after the Civil War.....How's that Russian?
Posted on 5/29/24 at 7:50 am to Boss13
Andrew Jackson pardoned all confederate soldiers.
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