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re: Does anyone understand why having the National Guard helping defeat crime is a bad thing?
Posted on 8/26/25 at 7:53 am to the808bass
Posted on 8/26/25 at 7:53 am to the808bass
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Keep banging the drum for lawlessness
I'm not. Crime is going down without the expansion of fed gov and erosion of states rights.
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We will remain encamped in reality.
No
Hence why the response when looking at the data (reality) is to claim its fake (and, funny enough, claim the data that supports their argument is real, ignoring how it's just as likely to be faked).
And you can add hypocrisy to that, for many. Encamped in ignoring reality and being hypocrites.
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 7:54 am to DeltaDoc
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How anyone can down vote that post that’s a conservative and has paid any attention is beyond me.
It’s pretty easy. I did it.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 7:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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Why haven't Republican mayors and governments taken over the past 30 years as crime evaporated?
Is this the dumbest question that will be axed on Politards today?
Posted on 8/26/25 at 7:57 am to the808bass
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Is this the dumbest question that will be axed on Politards today?
It's a response to the dumbest attempt at a point on this board so far todayf
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peace in the inner cities actually threatens the Democrat power elite
That literally happened over the last 30 years and cities became more Democrat-Leftist.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 7:57 am to the808bass
Its a shithole
Posted on 8/26/25 at 7:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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Crime is going down without the expansion of fed gov and erosion of states rights.
Crime is going down versus the crack years of the 80s? Holy shite. That’s amazing.
DC’s homicide rate in 2023 was top 50 in the world. It’s an easy feat to come down from top 50 in the world.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 7:57 am to SlowFlowPro
At the risk of responding to someone who isn't interested in what anyone else thinks:
The long term trend (40+ years) is down argument doesn’t mean much to a teenager. The stats (lies and damn lies) are questionable to begin with - definitions have been changed, reporting systems have been changed, and compliance isn't consistent. There is an incentive to under-report, and even if/when the numbers are right, the crime that’s left is often packed into certain neighborhoods. If you live there, “overall crime is down” doesn’t mean much when your kid still can’t walk to the park.
On top of that, the rise in homelessness, addiction, and mental health issues changes how safe a city feels, even if those problems don’t show up in crime data. These are quality of life issues and when people watch the same offenders cycle in and out of jail thanks to incompetent police work, lax enforcement, bail and sentencing changes, it’s hard to believe the system’s improving.
The long term trend (40+ years) is down argument doesn’t mean much to a teenager. The stats (lies and damn lies) are questionable to begin with - definitions have been changed, reporting systems have been changed, and compliance isn't consistent. There is an incentive to under-report, and even if/when the numbers are right, the crime that’s left is often packed into certain neighborhoods. If you live there, “overall crime is down” doesn’t mean much when your kid still can’t walk to the park.
On top of that, the rise in homelessness, addiction, and mental health issues changes how safe a city feels, even if those problems don’t show up in crime data. These are quality of life issues and when people watch the same offenders cycle in and out of jail thanks to incompetent police work, lax enforcement, bail and sentencing changes, it’s hard to believe the system’s improving.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 7:58 am to Gorilla Ball
Why is deploying our military against us citizens a bad a thing? Really?
Posted on 8/26/25 at 7:58 am to Gorilla Ball
stfu 
Posted on 8/26/25 at 7:58 am to Gorilla Ball
Democrats love crime and criminals. It’s their political base and so they have to pander to them.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 7:58 am to SlowFlowPro
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That literally happened over the last 30 years and cities became more Democrat-Leftist.
Your argument is that cities have both become more peaceful and more left leaning?
Posted on 8/26/25 at 7:58 am to oklahogjr
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Why is deploying our military against us citizens a bad a thing?
You misspelled criminals.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:00 am to the808bass
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Crime is going down versus the crack years of the 80s? Holy shite. That’s amazing.
No, from the recent post-Covid spike.
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DC’s homicide rate in 2023 was top 50 in the world. It’s an easy feat to come down from top 50 in the world.
Our cities will always be higher in these rankings compared to the developed world and Asian urbanity.
We have a huge underclass that hurts us in every societal stat on pathology. And, specifically for violent crime, we have a ton of guns in addition to that pathology.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:00 am to the808bass
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You misspelled criminals.
Working hard to pretend they aren't being deployed against citizens. Some of those citizens are criminals...
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:01 am to the808bass
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Your argument is that cities have both become more peaceful and more left leaning?
Since the 90s? Yes
We KNOW they've become more peaceful.
If you have data saying they're more Republican-conservative, I'm willing to read it. I don't think that exists, though.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:01 am to Gorilla Ball
I’m not totally opposed to it if it’s a short term deal lower crime while more policeman are hired and trained but the real problem is the ineffectual DA’s and lenient judges.
The main thing for me is that there’s something just unamerican about the army patrolling the streets in camouflage uniforms with rifles.
The main thing for me is that there’s something just unamerican about the army patrolling the streets in camouflage uniforms with rifles.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:03 am to HeadCall
It’s called a show of force and it’s clearly working.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:04 am to Gorilla Ball
No
"The National Guard serves the nation and community as both a state-controlled and federal military force, responding to domestic emergencies like natural disasters and civil unrest."
Why are you confused?
"The National Guard serves the nation and community as both a state-controlled and federal military force, responding to domestic emergencies like natural disasters and civil unrest."
Why are you confused?
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:04 am to HeadCall
I don't think the National Guard is the right, long term solution either. If the FBI wanted to reform and be a meaningful and important contributor to American life, they could play a role here until things are under control. That would be a welcome change from their focus the last 10 years.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:05 am to Florida_Man1981
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It's like all thing in our politics. Think of an action and then consider if you want the other side to have those same authorities.
Like the nuclear option in the Senate?
Mandatory and strict government commanded shut down of your business and movement at their own discretion? While excusing others at their discretion?
Taking over healthcare with empty promises and lies?
Three letter agencies conspiring against the other party?
Impeachment? Twice?
Spying and FBI raids on your opponent?
Oh gee… the LEFT would NEVER do anything brash without the right doing it first!
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