re: Does anyone here on this board have the balls to say they oppose weed legalization?

Who is lying you of the DEA? Easy question. One of two answers . What's your answer?

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You cant possibly argue that.

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I've been a smoker for 20 years and I've lived here, basically, all that time.

Believe it or not I know people and I know a lot of people who know people. You have no clue how many businesses have started here on pot profits since the 80's.

Portland/Eugene/Medford have been putting out pounds and pounds since before my time. Back when white people still worked the fields

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I've been a smoker for 20 years and I've lived here, basically, all that time.

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Where is here? Colorado or Portugal? Those are the only 2 locations talked about.

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Believe it or not I know people and I know a lot of people who know people. You have no clue how many businesses have started here on pot profits since the 80's.

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Not even the topic.

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Portland/Eugene/Medford have been putting out pounds and pounds since before my time. Back when white people still worked the fields

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Has zero to do with the topic.

- It was stated that legalization would end cartels
- Portugal was used as an example
- it switched to Colorado

In every example, not once have we seen the Cartels or mob or mafia or illegal activity stop.

So again... Stay on topic and address it.

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I see no need to legalize weed

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Cars don't need to be able to go over 35 mph

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It will take the power away from cartels.

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Show me a real example. I have asked, you have given Colorado. I have shown you 2 recent cases where the are active in that state.

Here again is the post:

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You can buy weed legally in several states. No one is overdosing and dying. At the same time, imported pot is dropping stripping the cartel of its power Markets at work!

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Just so we are all on the same page. You assert that legalizing weed will end the cartels and there is nothing negative socially or medically.

Colorado is your choice.


So here we go:

In today's news
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Canadian County Sheriff's deputies have seized 143 pounds of marijuana worth an estimated $490,000 in separate late December traffic stops, Sheriff Chris West reports.

Terry Burchette, 55, of Colorado Springs, Colorado was arrested on marijuana trafficking complaints and jailed. The 115 pounds marijuana is estimated to be worth $400,000, West reports.

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Headline: LINK

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More Colorado marijuana seized en route to other states, report finds

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Postal inspectors seized more than 493lbs of pot from packages in 2013, quadruple the amount from 2010.

More...
3.9 million in street valued seized

The above is 2017... and :

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Deputies seized more than 800 marijuana plants in various stages of growth along with an estimated 500 pounds (227 kilograms) of recently harvested and dried marijuana.

Authorities say all the people arrested have connections to Mexico and one of them was a previously deported felon.

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The Cartels... In Colorado. Working.

Illegal...

Here is another.. about a year ago:

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22,000 pounds of pot seized in five county raid

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Care to guess the value of that?

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Investigators believe that it was one large criminal organization that was transporting marijuana out of Colorado and into Texas and Arkansas. The DEA has said that several houses were converted into exclusive grow operations. Investigators said 10 of the 12 homes were rental properties.

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Cartel...


Social Effects:

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The Unexpected Side Effects of Legalizing Weed

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Colorado’s pot culture include increased use among teens, resulting in educational problems in middle schools and high schools, a spike in “edibles”-related emergency room visits, consumption by children and pets resulting in illness and death and regulatory confusion surrounding public consumption and enforcement.

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In 2014 and 2015, nearly $6 million in pot revenues have been distributed to local governments. But the cost of increased law enforcement, drugged-driving incidents, fatal crashes, loss of productivity and a huge spike in gang-related crime bring into question the cost-benefit of those dollars.

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Teen drug-related school expulsions are also on the rise. And the notion that prisons filled with minor drug offenders would be relieved of overcrowding—a selling point of legalizing marijuana—has been blown to smithereens.

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Show me a real example.

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Ive posted you multiple links

Legal pot cripples cartels

Legal pot doing what drug wat couldnt

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Those were Cartels. If it's grown here by them, then naturally they are not accounted for in crossing the border.

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Most of illegal grow operations in Colorado are for export

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Therefor your point is invalid

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Where is here?

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Portland/Eugene/Medford have been putting out pounds and pounds since before my time.

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Google

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Not even the topic. 

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You said I couldn't argue that and I did. You asked I told.

For some reason you think you have a clue, but you don't.

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It was stated that legalization would end cartels

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Was it? You'll never fully get rid of them because we won't be decriminalizing cocaine, meth, and heroin any time soon nor the rest of the world.

However, we will eventually see them have little profits selling pot with federal legalization. Only a handful of states are legal and the graph posted by Roger shows the major decline. Imagine when all 50 states are legal. Cartels and the local black market will eventually be a small business concerning pot.

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Most of illegal grow operations in Colorado are for export

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Going where the real money is.

Eventually, they will have no where to go in this country concerning pot.