re: Do you think the US will inevitably become more liberal after Trump

So your whole point with that long post is that because people are turning away from religion, that will make them more "progressive"?

Well, I got news for you from an atheist/former proggy.

I can't stand all the things you mocked in your post as well, but I also work my arse off and pay taxes. Today's violent, whining, non contributors that represent my former party (Democrats) are only turning away more and more people.

I'm as socially "progressive" as you can get, but I'm disgusted now at the overreach of the Dem party in every area. I could get on a soapbox about this, but point is that just bc people are turning away from religion doesn't mean they will automatically start voting for a party whose religion is currently "climate change", bigger govt, less rights, and promoting violence against their domestic political enemy.

The Democrat Party left me about 10 years ago. I was worried what Obama would do, and I was right. I voted for HRC in the 2008 primary but am thrilled she lost in 2016. No, I didn't not vote for DJT either.

That whole shtick is a non sequitur.

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i think the disconnect here is that you see me say "liberal" and take it to mean "democrat".

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Well only bc so many misuse the term Liberal. I associate today's Dems with "progressive" while others say Liberal. I'm a liberal.

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i have no idea what the frick the democratic party is doing at this point.

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I do, because I understand Progressives.

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i grew up as a deepest possible republican, and maybe still would be if the party was filled with people like Goldwater, but, again, the party has lost its fricking mind.

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Well they've lost their mind, but no worries, they're spineless pussies that won't stop "progressives". They are literally pointless.

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if it were up to me we wouldn't have political parties at all

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I agree, but also for selfish reasons. The primary selfish reason, of course, is that neither of the two current parties represents me whatsoever.

I was pleased with Trump's denouncement this week of the AHCA as served up by the House. He called it "mean".

Trump is starting to get it, as regards health care. I think what will save the Trump Presidency, and Republicanism in general, is the smooth glide from ObamaCare to single payor.

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Do you think the US will inevitably become more liberal after Trump

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Yes. But Trump is not the relevant variable. The US has been becoming incrementally more liberal since the signing of the Constitution.

The reason has more to do with human nature than with the beliefs of elected Presidents. Voters tend to vote themselves less responsibility at less individual cost.

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As authoritarianism has ramped up in the last two decades, I was holding out hope that the pendulum would swing back to liberty. Hasn't happened yet.

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Would you agree that the threat of terrorism has been the most influential variable for voters to seek more "protection" by having an authoritarian government?

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I think what will save the Trump Presidency, and Republicanism in general, is the smooth glide from ObamaCare to single payor

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Single payer negatively affects the upper middle class and upper class which are heavily Republican. These groups oppose it.

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It's in mankinds nature to inevitably destroy itself.