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re: Do you honestly believe we are Independent?
Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:59 pm to rocket31
Posted on 7/4/17 at 12:59 pm to rocket31
We're free enough that idiots can go long TVIX and gold, get their asses handed to them, do it over and over again, then come on here and bitch about how unfair our financial system is.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:00 pm to rocket31
quote:
our social mobility rate sucks, you cant survive off one income anymore if you want a family,
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:00 pm to rocket31
list of things other countries can do that USA can not w/o govt permission
fish
drink under 21
build a house
own a gun
drive a car
collect rainwater
leave the country
start a business
smoke weed
get married
repeat after me slaves - I AM FREEE
fish
drink under 21
build a house
own a gun
drive a car
collect rainwater
leave the country
start a business
smoke weed
get married
repeat after me slaves - I AM FREEE
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:01 pm to rocket31
quote:
i could frick a goat, while smoking a joint and banging a prostitute in front of a police officer in Holland
not true
Beasality was made illegal in NED in the 2010s
and drug/prostitution is typically limited to specific areas. hell Amsterdam has cracked down on both lately
Holland cracking down on coffee shops
Amsterdam cracks down on prostitutes
This post was edited on 7/4/17 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:02 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:
did nothing but speak in vague cryptic generalities for 10+ years. Why not spell all this shite out now and get moving in it already?
Yes this. Why I asked him to go into full detail of what his definition of independence is. He cannot answer it.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:02 pm to Jake88
whats so funny, do you think its possible to raise a family sufficiently with 1 income in 2017?
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:02 pm to rocket31
Name the country where you can do all of that without some government involvement.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
and drug/prostitution is typically limited to specific areas.
so another L for america
well done
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:03 pm to rocket31
quote:
the elite have made it so we are constantly fighting "left vs right" - that way they remain in control. when in reality its the 0.1% vs the rest of us slaves who think we are free because we get to buy a new iphone every year and a mocha latte at starbucks each morning
Consume, sleep, consume, sleep
The very constructs of what we consider free, independent behavior are the result of decades/centuries of conditioning...

Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:04 pm to rocket31
quote:
fish
drink under 21
build a house
own a gun
drive a car
collect rainwater
leave the country
start a business
smoke weed
get married
you may be able to do one or two things more freely on this list than the US, but your argument is seriously weak if you think this list is illustrative of anything. you're almagomating a bunch of single regulations from specific countries into a mythical state where it's all better.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:05 pm to rocket31
Absolutely. I have at least six friends who are doing it right now. I'm doing it in fact. I work, wife stays home and we have three kids in Catholic school.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:05 pm to rocket31
quote:
so another L for america
what?
you can't just go around doing drugs in NED, bro
they tolerate it in specific areas (which are becoming smaller and smaller), out of public
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
youre very confused, it seems
ive never said anywhere else is better - in fact ive said the USA is the most comfortable place to live
ive only argued against our freedoms ...
ive never said anywhere else is better - in fact ive said the USA is the most comfortable place to live
ive only argued against our freedoms ...
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:07 pm to Centinel
quote:Show me where I said different? I asked a simple question: are we independent? And if so, what are we independent of.
I mean, that's what I tend to believe, but how would I know - I've never lived anywhere else.
Then listen to those of us who've lived in other countries when we tell you the US, while not perfect by any stretch, is by far the most free.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:08 pm to rocket31
quote:
and drug/prostitution is typically limited to specific areas.
so another L for america
There are specific areas in America you can do both as well.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:08 pm to rocket31
quote:
ive never said anywhere else is better - in fact ive said the USA is the most comfortable place to live
ive only argued against our freedoms ...
i'm only talking about freedoms
you're creating a very unrealistic and mythical comparison for the US
take guns. what developed, stable countries has fewer regulations on guns than the US? you listed that as a negative for the US when i can't imagine another developed state with as few regulations on purchasing arms
you listed starting a business. there are a few Scandinavian countries with easier routes (compared to SOME, but not all states, within the US). however, that's one example and it's infinitely harder to manage the regulatory behemoths in countries like the UK or France
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:10 pm to rocket31
repeat after me slaves
fish: done it anyway
drink: under 21 done it anyway
build a house: built a tree fort with crap we stole/repurposed from construction sites
drive a car: often and early no permission or doc
collect rainwater: do it today
leave the country: not yet but I can buy a boat and leave not hard
start a business: have sold a few things off the grid and without permission. Go to a flea market or garage sale sometimes
smoke weed: see above
get married: I didn't ask permission from anyone but my wife. Signed a legal doc in county court house. Would be with her today doc or not.

fish: done it anyway
drink: under 21 done it anyway
build a house: built a tree fort with crap we stole/repurposed from construction sites
drive a car: often and early no permission or doc
collect rainwater: do it today
leave the country: not yet but I can buy a boat and leave not hard
start a business: have sold a few things off the grid and without permission. Go to a flea market or garage sale sometimes
smoke weed: see above
get married: I didn't ask permission from anyone but my wife. Signed a legal doc in county court house. Would be with her today doc or not.
This post was edited on 7/4/17 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:11 pm to rocket31
Mindless drivel. Topic #5 on the top ten list of conversations heard at a college town Starbucks.
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