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Do you all think term limits would combat some of the corruption?

Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:07 pm
Posted by crossfire
Alabama
Member since Oct 2010
2657 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:07 pm
Do you all think term limits would combat some of the corruption that is well known with swampy politicians? Just think, if there were no *insert politician name* then foreign countries wouldn't be seeking out these politicians if they were out of office in a few years.
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 11:38 pm
Posted by Simplemaaan
Member since Sep 2007
4000 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:08 pm to
We as voters can decide term limits.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
27066 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:14 pm to
Yes, voters can but they get lulled into an easy vote to re-elect. That’s why we have congressmen that have been there for 30-40-50 years.
Posted by lsufan35
Member since Aug 2005
946 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:19 pm to
So can we get rid of term limit for President?
Posted by aujerm
North ATL burbs
Member since Oct 2016
1011 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:25 pm to
You may have some politicians more apt to take money if they know they only have a set amount of years in Congress.

I absolutely think Congressmen and women start to become out of touch with the states they represent when they stay in DC for many years.
Posted by Slevin7
Member since Sep 2015
2480 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:36 pm to
I think tern limits and extremely scrutinized audits for the remainder of their lives.

Let’s find the patriots.

Too many of these people go into office with nothing and come out multimillionaires.

Book deals and speeches my arse

Edit: or maybe the fricking intelligence community could do their gd jobs instead of using it as leverage to control elected officials.
This post was edited on 10/28/20 at 7:44 am
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
8780 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 11:05 pm to
Its not just elected officials. Need to get rid of career bureaucrats. If we learned nothing else from the impeachment its that they have an agenda and a distorted view of their role in the function of government.
Posted by tigerterrace
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Sep 2016
3473 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 11:08 pm to
I think maybe the opposite. If a person is termed there may be more of a need to cozy up to lobbyist. Setting themselves up for future gigs as they will still be young leaving office.

Also think of all that extra retirement....
Posted by HoustonTigerNKaty
Member since Aug 2018
826 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 11:32 pm to
Herein lies the problem:

Congress almost always has a low approval rate, i.e., “those bastards in DC suck”

Congressional incumbents typically win, i.e, “my guy/girl is pretty good, I am voting for him/her again”

Without a 3/4 state convention I don’t foresee Congressional term limits.
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
8383 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 11:35 pm to
No. Term limits are useless unless you limit the tenure of non elected government officials.
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
11510 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 11:37 pm to
quote:

We as voters can decide term limits.


No, no we can’t.

The average incumbent has 5X the war chest of a challenger. That’s a lot. And if the challenger makes ground the party dumps 10x the amount to ensure dumb Americans see enough commercials to sway a vote.
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
11510 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 11:40 pm to
12 year term limits.

No lobbying for 8 years after “service”

A very healthy paycheck to ensure that average Americans can get elected and ensure that their businesses can survive without them while they are off serving their constituents in DC.

it would get rid of 95% of our problems immediately.
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
4753 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 11:48 pm to
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So can we get rid of term limit for President?

Or at least increase a President's term to 10 years rather than 4....starting immediately.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
18725 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 11:51 pm to
quote:

12 year term limits.

No lobbying for 8 years after “service”

A very healthy paycheck to ensure that average Americans can get elected and ensure that their businesses can survive without them while they are off serving their constituents in DC.

it would get rid of 95% of our problems immediately.
And just how are you going to accomplish this?

The legislature gonna vote against their gravy chain?

The only way possible is at the State level through State Constitution Amendment which will be legally challenged and fail. Fail because while LA gets it on a ballot TX, AR, MS all remain as is and gain Seniority over any remaining LA Congress Persons.

As long as Committee positions and such remain Seniority based, any state that starts the process of term limits falls to the wayside in DC Power.

That's another reason you end up with Pelosi, Schumer, et al. Seniority. Biden after 30 years was the Senior of the Seniors for the Dems. Picked his own committee positions for the next 9 years then 8 as VP.
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
11510 posts
Posted on 10/28/20 at 6:01 am to
Cruz and Rubio have a Bill for term limits.
Posted by Waldorf
Member since Aug 2020
256 posts
Posted on 10/28/20 at 6:11 am to
-Term Limits
-Balanced Budget
-Apply the 10th amendment with zealotry.

I would think that these three things would go a long way to fixing things, if they are fixable. Shouldn't have to do these, but Washington has proven they cannot control themselves with power or money.
Posted by Waldorf
Member since Aug 2020
256 posts
Posted on 10/28/20 at 6:18 am to
quote:

Its not just elected officials. Need to get rid of career bureaucrats.


I grew up in DC. My folks had friends at the Pentagon and NSA among other agencies. Many of career folks used the term "Summer Help" for elected politicians or their top staff. The bureaucrats are entrenched and have just as much of an agenda as the political class.
Posted by Animal
Member since Dec 2017
4341 posts
Posted on 10/28/20 at 6:19 am to
quote:

Its not just elected officials


It still amazes me that some folks think the country is being run by people in an elected office.
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
11510 posts
Posted on 10/28/20 at 6:27 am to
quote:

I grew up in DC. My folks had friends at the Pentagon and NSA among other agencies. Many of career folks used the term "Summer Help" for elected politicians or their top staff. The bureaucrats are entrenched and have just as much of an agenda as the political class.




Scary
Posted by DougsMugs
Georgia
Member since Aug 2019
8239 posts
Posted on 10/28/20 at 8:42 am to
Yes

1). Why would lobbyist and foreign countries invest a ton of cash on such a limited term investment? There will still be some, but this could remove a lot. If there is no "campaign" to contribute to, that makes that routine harder.

2). Politician can focus on the work of the people instead of immediately starting on next campaign. While not corruption, it is a problem that would be solved by term limits.

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