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re: Do Trump’s lies bother you?

Posted on 10/23/18 at 11:35 am to
Posted by Smart Post
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 10/23/18 at 11:35 am to
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miserable little progressive

Redundant.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
20074 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 11:36 am to
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In fact his net worth is down about 25% since he became president


In reality, nobody has a clue what his net worth is. if It were what he claims, he would release tax returns.
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
9401 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 11:37 am to
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if It were what he claims, he would release tax returns


only took yall 10 pages

new record!
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 11:38 am to
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1. Trump thinks his Trumpkins are stupid. He has said as much.


Link, please. I know you can do it, little fella!!!
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56187 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 11:38 am to
Lies must be "intentional" deception
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 11:40 am to
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if It were what he claims, he would release tax returns.



Why would he do that? All y'all would do then is say he was being boastful.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35119 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 11:41 am to
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In reality, nobody has a clue what his net worth is. if It were what he claims, he would release tax returns.


NPC says “release tax returns!”
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
20074 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 11:42 am to
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What has Trump lied about that has actual impact in your life?


Good question. Like you said, it’s not one big thing like the keeping your doctor claim from Obama.

However, it does change the political discourse and the level of what is and isn’t acceotable speech and behavior for a president. It may or may not have broader consequences. That’s what I’m trying to gauge.

But if we care about being morally good actors, we’ve got to address this across the board with all politicians. We can’t say it’s ok to do one thing that’s morally bad and dismiss another thing because it’s not as convenient to us.
Posted by ILeaveAtHalftime
Member since Sep 2013
2889 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 11:44 am to
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In reality, nobody has a clue what his net worth is. if It were what he claims, he would release tax returns.


In reality, his net worth and tax returns are none of anyone’s business but his and the IRS.

What information exactly are you hoping to glean from his tax returns? Just to see how much he’s worth so you can gloat?

Or are you honestly thinking you’re going to see “Secret Payments to Russians for Hacking Server” listed somewhere with the rest of his deductions?
Posted by ILeaveAtHalftime
Member since Sep 2013
2889 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 11:46 am to
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It may or may not have broader consequences


Only for the emotional hordes who feign outrage about obvious political hyperbole because the media sets their hair on fire.


Do you honestly think this is new? Political hyperbole, lying, etc has ALWAYS been a part of the game.

Rational people know to ignore what is said for the cameras/masses, and judge on policy.
Posted by ILeaveAtHalftime
Member since Sep 2013
2889 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 11:48 am to
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being morally good actors


I don’t care if my politicians cuss, exaggerate, or cheat on their wives, as long as they are effective in representing their constituents.

People like you are why John Bel Edwards is the governor of Louisiana
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 11:49 am to
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Toddy


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MasterAg


Is this a lie, an opinion, or something else? ....

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“Russian 'collusion' was just an excuse by the Democrats for having lost the Election!”

Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41075 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 11:51 am to
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However, it does change the political discourse

Sure like Biden telling a room full of church goers that conservatives wanted them back in chains.

Just get over your self. All politicians lie about 99% of the time.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 11:51 am to
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In reality, nobody has a clue what his net worth is. if It were what he claims, he would release tax returns.


Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
20074 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:02 pm to
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What information exactly are you hoping to glean from his tax returns?


His whole persona is the working man’s billionaire. Would it not bother you that the person he purports to be is a total lie?

Not to mention the fact that he’s fricked over thousands of blue collar workers who he refused to compensate for their labor.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62019 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:03 pm to
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Do Trump’s lies bother you?


And you link to a piece from the Washington Post?! Do you realize that they are a king of lies? Good grief!
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
20074 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:06 pm to
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Is this a lie, an opinion, or something else? ....

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“Russian 'collusion' was just an excuse by the Democrats for having lost the Election!”


I don’t know, that’s what the investigation is about.

How about the fact that trump dismissed the validated claims of all our intelligence agencies that concluded Russian meddling in the elections and Trump backing Putin over his own people?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57015 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:07 pm to
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then click above before responding.


So you want us to believe trump lies by clicking on a fake news site?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297977 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:07 pm to
What's with the sky screaming aggies today on the PB?
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23056 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:08 pm to
He doesn’t lie about policy. He has kept his word about those things

The typical politician lies about policy.

So if trump wants to exaggerate(lie) about crowd sizes at the inauguration, then yes I’m fine with that
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