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re: DNI Gabbard Releases US-Funded Biolab Evidence, including Ukraine
Posted on 6/14/26 at 10:03 am to G The Tiger Fan
Posted on 6/14/26 at 10:03 am to G The Tiger Fan
quote:None of this answered the questions
Burisma was owned by a guy who was a miniser under Ukraine's pro-Russian leader when the company was founded. Sleepy Joe said he was OK with Russia making a "minor incursion" into Ukraine, basically giving Russia his blessing. Obama was caught on a hot mic telling the Russian president he was willing to go along with their opposition to European missile defense. Clinton was president when Ukraine's nukes were taken away.
quote:I asked 2 questions that addresses this, in part. Second, if they are "pro Russia" then why were they arming Ukraine knowing Ukraine was using weapons against Russia and why were we sending them money to use at their discretion and why were they constantly hosting Zelensky and showing HIM support while constantly complaining about how big bad Russian is undermining America? Why are they constantly shilling for NATO at Russia's expense? You haven't thought this through and you're missing the elephant in the room
Where are you getting the idea that any of these Dem presidents are anything but pro-Communist Russia?
The Bidens, et al, have connections in Ukraine/China and they have nothing to do with any military conflicts or NATO or any of that geo-political stuff. That's why they were going over there so frequently. That's why Hunter was on the Board of a random European company knowing nothing about their business. That's why Biden threatened Ukraine to stop investigating the situation. None of that has anything to do with Russia
Posted on 6/14/26 at 10:05 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:It's been refuted in this very thread nerd. They said there weren't biolabs but then backtracked because it was a lie. They said the biolabs were nothing when it had been revealed they weren't nothing. Now we have an administration that's putting an official stamp on what was unofficially already known
The "propaganda" that hasn't been refuted
Posted on 6/14/26 at 10:09 am to somethingdifferent
quote:
It's been refuted in this very thread nerd.
No evidence in this thread has been presented to refute the MSM's comments about biological weapons from 2022-2023.
Now, some did try to dishonestly conflate GOF or viral research as "biological weapons" but that was easily disposed of.
quote:
. They said there weren't biolabs
This is the conflation.
They said there weren't biolabs as part of a biological weapons program or biolabs producing biological weapons. Nothing has yet been produced to refuse these claims.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 10:09 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Yes, you are quoting it but I understand this is a game you play
So you have no actual evidence?
quote:You unsurprisingly didn't respond to the point I made and you did respond with something that is irrelevant to the topic.
They conspired to get a grant restored
Let me expound from the indictment:
Morens and his co-conspirators (which include Peter Daszak of EcoHealth Alliance) explicitly agreed in writing to use personal Gmail accounts and delete federal records specifically to evade FOIA requests and hide their communications.
They did this to "counter the narrative that COVID-19 leaked from a lab" and to protect the U.S. federal grants feeding money into the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
Morens accepted kickbacks from Daszak in exchange for using his government influence to push scientific commentaries into major medical journals advocating for a "natural origin."
What's crazy is you have stated you think covid19 is "likely not" naturally occurring so why would you fight this point?
Posted on 6/14/26 at 10:10 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:That is not what people are saying SFP
The "Ukraine has biological weapons program"
Posted on 6/14/26 at 10:13 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Which of the 3 are you arguing? 1. Bio labs
2. Biological weapons/program
3. Gain of function
I don't care which you pick, but you need to pick one as your argument and reject the other 2
They are all related, so all 3.
The Biden Administration told us in 2022 that the very existence of these biolabs and were proven to be liars. Wuhan used US funded gain of function to create Covid 19 in 2019, which was a bioweapon unleashed on the world to stop Trump from being reelected in 2020.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 10:15 am to somethingdifferent
quote:
You unsurprisingly didn't respond to the point I made and you did respond with something that is irrelevant to the topic.
I answered your question and reality was just unfortunate for the point you were trying to make, as usual.
quote:
Morens and his co-conspirators (which include Peter Daszak of EcoHealth Alliance) explicitly agreed in writing to use personal Gmail accounts and delete federal records specifically to evade FOIA requests and hide their communications.
They did this to "counter the narrative that COVID-19 leaked from a lab" and to protect the U.S. federal grants feeding money into the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
Morens accepted kickbacks from Daszak in exchange for using his government influence to push scientific commentaries into major medical journals advocating for a "natural origin."
Yes, as I said, this was to get a grant restored that was cancelled.
I quoted the DOJ press release for the indictment.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 10:16 am to somethingdifferent
quote:
That is not what people are saying SFP
That's what was being discussed in 2022-20223 and yes, today they're trying to not discuss it by dishonestly trying to change the prior arguments to claim victory today.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 10:16 am to TigerDoc
quote:That's not a part of what is being said ITT. The distinction matters because Fauci, et al, took their GOF research overseas specifically to conduct experiments that were outlawed in the US. People seem to be averse to explain why that is
old and non-secret program back to the Nunn-Lugar Biological Threat Reduction program in the 90's
Posted on 6/14/26 at 10:17 am to Placekicker
quote:
They are all related, so all 3.
conflation: confirmed.
They are 3 very distinct arguments. You have to pick one.
quote:
The Biden Administration told us in 2022 that the very existence of these biolabs and were proven to be liars.
What?
quote:
Wuhan used US funded gain of function to create Covid 19 in 2019, which was a bioweapon unleashed on the world to stop Trump from being reelected in 2020.
A conspiracy theory that makes no sense under logical investigation AND has no relationship to Ukraine at all (as you admit)
Posted on 6/14/26 at 10:18 am to somethingdifferent
quote:
The distinction matters because Fauci, et al, took their GOF research overseas specifically to conduct experiments that were outlawed in the US.
Has nothing to do with claims of a "biological weapons program" or "biolabs"
Posted on 6/14/26 at 10:19 am to Placekicker
Screw those research monsters
Posted on 6/14/26 at 10:32 am to Placekicker
Rubio asks about bio weapon labs in the Ukraine and Nulsnd responds that they are biolabs, yet she is concerned that they will fall into the hands of the Russians. The question is why are these labs in Ukraine and why is she worried about them falling into Russian hands. Biolab or bio weapon lab ... What are they doing?
I need to find that hearing and watch it.
I need to find that hearing and watch it.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 10:33 am to somethingdifferent
quote:
That's not a part of what is being said ITT. The distinction matters because Fauci, et al, took their GOF research overseas specifically to conduct experiments that were outlawed in the US. People seem to be averse to explain why that is
The biological threat reduction program is the origin of US involvement (unless someone has something earlier to show) had to do with cold war biosafety stemming from the destabilization and collapse of the USSR and Soviet bloc. Programs continue to evolve over time as it must have in the post-cold-war, but anybody alleging an offensive bioweapons program in Ukraine has to start from the original purpose and mission and show how it changed and show that they were actually doing it with actual evidence.
This post was edited on 6/14/26 at 10:36 am
Posted on 6/14/26 at 10:36 am to TigerDoc
quote:
, but anybody alleging an offensive bioweapons program in Ukraine has to start from the original purpose and mission and show how it changed.
And this requires direct, credible evidence.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 10:36 am to SlowFlowPro
heh. I edited to add that. 
Posted on 6/14/26 at 10:38 am to mauser
quote:
Rubio asks about bio weapon labs in the Ukraine and Nulsnd responds that they are biolabs, yet she is concerned that they will fall into the hands of the Russians
I remember that. Now, if these weren’t bioweapons, as SFP has spent 26 pages trying to convince us of, why was she so concerned that they might fall into Russian hands??
Posted on 6/14/26 at 10:41 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
A conspiracy theory that makes no sense under logical investigation AND has no relationship to Ukraine at all (as you admit)
A fact AND it shows that the US was performing illegal gain of function research. That was just one lab. DNI identified 130 of them around the world, including Ukraine. It would be naive to think that they weren’t doing the same things in most, if not all of those labs.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 10:42 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
SlowFlowPro
Man, your just retarded...and thats why yall can't effectively lead anything
The labs exists, we funded them...and once caught, now it's being spun to deflect.
Once you catch em lying about the 1st topic, all the rest will be more manipulative talk, to make it play out longer and lose interest.
The whole time, the original findings are the facts.
Not matter the topic, you're the dumbest guy in the room. So much so, you can't see how stupid you are. But to be fair, you can't self diagnose retardism
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