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re: DNI Gabbard Releases US-Funded Biolab Evidence, including Ukraine

Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:54 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:54 pm to
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So your whole position falls apart

No. My position has been supported an, as of yet, not responded to directly

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OMG. You just said your position doesn't rely on this.

Holy shite

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Which has been all too happily provided ITT which you keep ignoring

Link the posts that directly and substantively do this.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:54 pm to
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And you're frickin lying

Show me in the post to which I quoted the words "gain of function" to support your argument
Posted by AlterEd
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Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:55 pm to
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He's not pivoting. You're pivoting.


It's literally all he has done in this entire thread.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
2053 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:56 pm to
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There has been literally zero specific link between the Wuhan lab and Ukraine
Oh yeah? Prove it.

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Link the posts that you're referring to
Nope. They're there ITT. You know where they are. They've been discussed on this board for 4 years. Go back, quote them and disprove them. Otherwise, you are a coward who has nothing, doesn't understand what's going on and then tries to hide behind PIVOT!!



This thread is peak SFP. It's beautiful.

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That is not logically possible. You can't prove a negative
I'm not asking you to prove a negative. You are claiming SOMETHING ELSE happened. I'm asking you to prove the something else that you have been so sure of but then backed off to a more agnostic position. Figure yourself out. Are you agnostic on covid19 or not?
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:57 pm to
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You're creating a straw man
Nope. It's a simple question. Did she issue an explicit denial that there were bioweapons? Yes or no?

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I said what she said/released didn't support the argument of a biological weapons program in Ukraine
Neither did she deny them, right?
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
2053 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:58 pm to
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Because she's a lying Russian shill
Prove it
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:58 pm to
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It's literally all he has done in this entire thread.

No

I just thought of a great question about Putin's arguments and your reframing

Considering gain of function research is done all over the world and only one pandemic has occurred from it, and we know exactly which lab caused this pandemic (The Wuhan lab in China), why didn't Putin suggest similar attacks on China for actually turning germane research into a "biological weapon"?

Why was he so focused on Ukraine instead of the country we know produced a pandemic?
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
2053 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:59 pm to
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That depends on several biolabs in Baton Rouge and their (potential) biological weapons programs
Why are you getting off topic? STAY ON TOPIC hypocrite. When a conversation starts, it needs to stay within your artificial guardrails
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:59 pm to
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Have you been keeping up at all? Do you know the first thing about this story that's been going on for about 5 or 6 years now? Apparently not
You mean the last 5-6 years where Russia and their supporters have been lying and not giving any actual evidence that Ukraine is about to manufacture and use any bioweapons all while committing a genocide?
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
13581 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:59 pm to
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Show me in the post to which I quoted the words "gain of function" to support your argument


You lied by saying I'm reframing the argument, dipshit. The argument is that there is no difference between a biolab and a bioweapons lab other than intent. And that intent can be established by pointing out that they were conducting illicit research in these facilities (GOF research). When you said that a doctor's office could be a biolab you ignored the part of my post that specifically referenced illicit GOF research to make your faulty point. So I said, "I was unaware that doctors were doing GOF research" because that was my fricking point that you were responding to.

Then you accused me of trying to reframe my own frickin argument.

No, I'm not reframing anything. You are.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
478284 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 7:00 pm to
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Why are you getting off topic? STAY ON TOPIC hypocrite. When a conversation starts, it needs to stay within your artificial guardrails


Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
478284 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 7:02 pm to
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. The argument is that there is no difference between a biolab and a bioweapons lab other than intent.


Which has nothing to do with gain of function, which was my point.

Pivoting to "gain of function" after I show how absurd this argument is, is reframing your argument from "every biolab is a putative bioweapons program" to "gain of function"

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specifically referenced illicit GOF

Where did that post specifically state "gain of function"?

Also, I've shown (a few posts above) how the GOD/CV19 argument also is a poor one. I imagine you won't answer those questions.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
2053 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 7:03 pm to
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My position has been supported an, as of yet, not responded to directly
Did she deny bioweapons yes or no?

How do you know covid19 was "likely" naturally occurring?

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Holy shite
Yeah, your position is built on what she said until it's inconvenient for you

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Link the posts that directly and substantively do this
Nope. You've been in this thread long enough to know they are there. You know how to hit the back button. Be a grown up with a spine and read this thread again. Otherwise, you are proving yet again that you are a childish halfwit who only cares about being disingenuous

If you REALLY wanted to know, you would know the information is out there and you would have sought it out. If you think you have, then prove it is wrong.

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as of yet, not responded to directly
I will respond to every single refutation of yours when you provide it. You know how to hit the back button in your browser. Until then, you continue to be a fraud
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
13581 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 7:03 pm to
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Which has nothing to do with gain of function, which was my point.



Conducting illicit, outlawed research establishes intent you fricking idiot.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478284 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 7:07 pm to
Considering gain of function research is done all over the world and only one pandemic has occurred from it, and we know exactly which lab caused this pandemic (The Wuhan lab in China), why didn't Putin suggest similar attacks on China for actually turning germane research into a "biological weapon"?

Why was he so focused on Ukraine instead of the country we know produced a pandemic?
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 7:07 pm to
Tusli 2028

Also, how many arrests so far based on this?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
478284 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 7:08 pm to
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How do you know covid19 was "likely" naturally occurring?


What? I said the literal opposite

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Likely not


Do you not know what "not" means?

It would explain your lack of reading comprehension
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
2053 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 7:10 pm to
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Considering gain of function research is done all over the world
Oh so research that's illegal is actually performed elsewhere. HOW INTERESTING

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only one pandemic has occurred from it
You acknowledge that covid19 caused a pandemic and that the pandemic originated from covid19 yet you also say covid19 was "likely naturally occurring." Is it your impression that GOF research is "naturally occurring?"

my word

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we know exactly which lab caused this pandemic (The Wuhan lab in China
So a US funded lab linked to the SAME PEOPLE as the Ukrainian labs was performing GOF research that caused a pandemic but, nothing nefarious was going on in the Ukraine, or China for that matter.

You are all over the place. You have no idea what's going on.

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why didn't Putin suggest similar attacks on China for actually turning germane research into a "biological weapon"?
His pretext for the Ukrainian conflict was more than just "biolabs." But you knew that already didn't you?

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Why was he so focused on Ukraine
You don't know? It's been all over the news for years
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478284 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 7:11 pm to
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You acknowledge that covid19 caused a pandemic and that the pandemic originated from covid19 yet you also say covid19 was "likely naturally occurring." I

What do you get out of lying?

Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
117109 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 7:12 pm to
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Tusli 2028
Maybe she can choose her surfing buddy/founder of the American Communist Party, Jackson Hinkle, as her running mate.

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