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re: DJT's latest on Massie.

Posted on 11/4/25 at 5:37 am to
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52448 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 5:37 am to
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Seems like it’s only the betas on this board that don’t like Massie

IWhat I think it comes down to is the practicality of politics. Massie is nearly a purist, and those kinds make poor politicians because politics is “the art of the possible”. What is frustrating Trump is that Massie is opposing the things they are doing to improve our situation, because those things are not good enough. That’s okay if Massie has close to the number of votes necessary to get his ideals implemented, but he doesn’t. The result is he is abetting the Democrats.

The upshot is that I don’t think Massie is “a scumbag”, but his refusal to get on board is similar to the third party candidacy of Ross Perot - all it did was get Clinton elected.
Posted by Lighteningbolt
Member since Oct 2025
229 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:07 am to
This is getting ridiculous. You folks want somebody to stand up for America and not take no for an answer. Then when someone finally does, you criticize him for not playing politics (which is exactly how the PTB has set up the game for them to win.)

Very frustrating.
Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
24479 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:08 am to
Good.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52448 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:16 am to
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You folks want somebody to stand up for America and not take no for an answer. Then when someone finally does, you criticize him for not playing politics (which is exactly how the PTB has set up the game for them to win.)

You folks?

I want to elect moral, responsible politicians. And when we reach a threshold, I want to get control of our federal government. In the mean time, and as we approach that threshold, I want them to be pragmatic and get the best deals possible.

The Democrats are currently pursuing the tact you suggest - purity in deed. They have shut down the government to fight for whatever it is they believe in. Their actions are lowering them in the voters’ estimation, so they are about to cave in on their purity. This is where the idealists meet their ends.
Posted by Lighteningbolt
Member since Oct 2025
229 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:19 am to
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I want to elect moral, responsible politicians.
LOL

Good luck with that.
Posted by Reflex
Member since Oct 2025
273 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:21 am to
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Because Trump is smart


Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73329 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:27 am to
gm EarlyCuyler!
Posted by Lighteningbolt
Member since Oct 2025
229 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:27 am to
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I want to get control of our federal government. In the mean time, and as we approach that threshold, I want them to be pragmatic and get the best deals possible.
Be sure to send me a postcard when you reach Fantasy Island.

Hint: What you’re asking for will never happen as long as those attempting to do so get nothing but pushback from those claiming they want it.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52448 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:31 am to
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Be sure to send me a postcard when you reach Fantasy Island.

Hint: What you’re asking for will never happen as long as those attempting to do so get nothing but pushback from those claiming they want it.

My point is that a politician who has a great end in mind, but won’t accept any deal except one that fully accomplishes that great end, is an ineffective politician, and he is likely acting as an impediment to progress toward that end.

Like it or not, the path to fiscal responsibility is a slow and arduous one. We have to win election after election for 20 years in order to climb. out of this mess.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19654 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:38 am to
Its going to be hilarious when Massie wins yet again.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19654 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:40 am to
Be careful, milei ran and won. Massie should take inspiration from that.
Posted by Lighteningbolt
Member since Oct 2025
229 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:40 am to
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My point is that a politician who has a great end in mind, but won’t accept any deal except one that fully accomplishes that great end, is an ineffective politician, and he is likely acting as an impediment to progress toward that end.
So if the system is the problem then why in the world would you continue to advocate for and play along with it? And before you say, that’s just the way things work, then why bother? Nothing will ever change…EVER!

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Like it or not, the path to fiscal responsibility is a slow and arduous one. We have to win election after election for 20 years in order to climb. out of this mess.
The Deep State thanks you for your support.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52448 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:42 am to
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So if the system is the problem

It’s not. The voters are the problem. Our Founders repeatedly emphasized that only a moral people could maintain this governemnt.
Posted by Lighteningbolt
Member since Oct 2025
229 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:53 am to
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Our Founders repeatedly emphasized that only a moral people could maintain this governemnt.
Our Founders were slave owners who only wanted the elite to vote.

ETA: Whether you realize it or not, what you’re advocating is to do the same thing over and over again while expecting a different result.
This post was edited on 11/4/25 at 6:58 am
Posted by BillysIsland
Member since Aug 2025
1308 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 7:17 am to
He strayed from daddy Trump! Kick him out of the club daddy!

Find someone like Uncle Lindsay!

Pathetic and weak
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26945 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 7:28 am to
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It's a record of how they vote. It's one of the first things I look at when I'm considering voting for someone.


Bro you're supposed to look at how often they come off the top rope on a libtard on X. Focus on what's important!
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