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re: DJT comments on the cattle ranchers.

Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:55 pm to
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16261 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:55 pm to
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Cost for WHAT.?

Supplemental feed, fertilizer if you're running enhanced pastures, other various chemicals to keep pastures working (cedar remediation is a BFD where we are), trucking costs, medicine for the herd, capex for drilling more water wells to try to fight off the drought, insurance, property taxes, etc. All of those have gone up steadily YoY.
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
5445 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:56 pm to
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You clearly dont understand the difference between macro and Micro, genius


We haven't even begun to discuss economics. What a clown response.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
65995 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:57 pm to
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Trump creates problem, takes credit for success, then "solves" problem.

That is MAGA in a nutshell.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
9689 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:57 pm to
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Supplemental feed, fertilizer if you're running enhanced pastures, other various chemicals to keep pastures working (cedar remediation is a BFD where we are), trucking costs, medicine for the herd, capex for drilling more water wells to try to fight off the drought, insurance, property taxes, etc. All of those have gone up steadily YoY.


Nuh uh. The boyfriend says otherwise.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292776 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:57 pm to
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That is MAGA in a nutshell.


100%

And the sheep rejoice, its a very strange dance.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292776 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 1:58 pm to
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We haven't even begun to discuss economics.


reread your post I replied to.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16261 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 2:00 pm to
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Nuh uh. The boyfriend says otherwise.

I imagine the BF is either FOS or running a little hobby ranch on a couple hundred acres. No one running anything north of 20 head would make a statement that herd capacity is healthy and costs are fine.
Posted by dat yat
Chef Pass
Member since Jun 2011
4868 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 2:01 pm to
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trump chosing their beef over USA beef?



The US herd size is down, US beef production is down and our beef prices are up much more than other meat products. Nothing wrong with getting beef elsewhere while ranchers focus on building the herd back up.
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
5445 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 2:03 pm to
My daughter, sol, & his family say its been great for their ranch outside of Austin.

How many ranches do you own?
Posted by lsugorilla
PNW
Member since Sep 2009
6361 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 2:04 pm to
The mental gymnastics to believe a yankee billionaire knows more about the cattle business than actual cattlemen.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39101 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 2:04 pm to
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Reduced cattle numbers and little signs of increased herd size until last
half of 2025 at the earliest
• Current projections put year-over-year calf prices at roughly 8 percent
higher in 2025 (Cull cow prices up roughly 7 percent)
• Based on USDA projections, prices in 2025:
• Calf prices (500 – 600 lb steers) - $2.80 - $2.90
• Cull Cows - $1.15 - $1.25
• Beyond 2025, prices should remain strong
Lower feed and input costs should support feeder cattle prices and support
cow/calf profitability

• Unexpected market shocks look to be the only thing could impact current
positive view of cattle prices and cattle market



https://www.lsuagcenter.com/~/media/system/8/9/b/5/89b57ac72d92bd49a687c3283e78c3ea/ag%20outlook%20cattle%202025pdf.pdf
Posted by DaveyJones12
Member since Dec 2022
320 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 2:05 pm to
Djt proposed importing Argentine cattle to bring beef prices down .
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56674 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 2:06 pm to
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And the sheep rejoice, its a very strange dance.


So if anyone supports Trump = sheep.

Can't the same be same for you? Anyone with as much hate as you have for Trump is also part of the TDS herd.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292776 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 2:07 pm to
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My daughter, sol, & his family say its been great for their ranch outside of Austin.


Weird, they are going against the prevailing opinion of most ranchers. I suspect they are cultists.


quote:

The downturn stems from limited access to China. In March, registrations expired for most U.S. beef plants and cold storage facilities. Since June, China has also suspended 11 additional plants.

As a result, July exports to China collapsed 92% to just 1,110 mt. Value fell even further, dropping 94% to under $8 million. For the first seven months of 2025, shipments to China slid 46% in volume and 47% in value.

quote:


Droughts, inflation and policy shifts have squeezed ranchers, who warn of a "national security threat" to food sovereignty.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292776 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 2:08 pm to
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So if anyone supports Trump = sheep.

Blindly, absolutely and they deserve ridicule.

Avoiding objective facts is the first clue.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16261 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 2:09 pm to
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• Lower feed and input costs should support feeder cattle prices and support
cow/calf profitability

Taken as a sole data point you'e right. And i wouldn't say they're lowered but have stabilized and projections say they're coming down.

But lets talk about why even lowered prices will not have a near term impact. Herds are younger than ever because of many reasons but mostly because of suppressed breeding caused by droughts in maybe of the high volume states in the early 2020s. Younger heards means you have to feed them longer and that increases costs.

So, even if prices come down drastically and nothing bad happens environmentally, we're 2ish years from being back to a normal cycle.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
40357 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 2:14 pm to
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RogerTheShrubber


Do you even work? God damn
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
5445 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 2:14 pm to
What's that quote from?
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
74485 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 2:16 pm to
Make Brisket $3/lb Again
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292776 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 2:17 pm to
LINK

Youre not going to believe it anyway, because your bro in law told you differently.
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