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Did we have enough hospital beds for the 274,304 that were hospitalized from H1N1?
Posted on 3/28/20 at 12:39 am
Posted on 3/28/20 at 12:39 am
Fatality rate is no longer a valid argument LINK
China virus Being a Novel Virus doesn’t hold weight when you consider that H1N1 was also a novel virus and didn’t receive the same reaction.
Vaccine argument doesn’t hold weight because we have a vaccine for seasonal flu and 80,000 Americans still died from it 2 flu seasons ago.
Cure argument doesn’t hold weight because the flu doesn’t have a cure and no one freaks out.
Lack of ventilators doesn’t hold weight because no US hospital has reached a point to where they were treating so many patients on a ventilator that they ran out.
So they only argument left is hospital beds. So I’m asking now....how did we have enough hospital beds for the 274,304 people who were hospitalized by the swine flu? Also what about the 710,000 that were hospitalized from the flu 2 flu seasons ago?
China virus Being a Novel Virus doesn’t hold weight when you consider that H1N1 was also a novel virus and didn’t receive the same reaction.
Vaccine argument doesn’t hold weight because we have a vaccine for seasonal flu and 80,000 Americans still died from it 2 flu seasons ago.
Cure argument doesn’t hold weight because the flu doesn’t have a cure and no one freaks out.
Lack of ventilators doesn’t hold weight because no US hospital has reached a point to where they were treating so many patients on a ventilator that they ran out.
So they only argument left is hospital beds. So I’m asking now....how did we have enough hospital beds for the 274,304 people who were hospitalized by the swine flu? Also what about the 710,000 that were hospitalized from the flu 2 flu seasons ago?
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Posted on 3/28/20 at 12:42 am to FlexDawg
What was the time period for H1N1? Over how many months were the hospitalizations spread?
Posted on 3/28/20 at 12:43 am to FlexDawg
So we wait till all that happens before taking preventative measures is what you want?
Posted on 3/28/20 at 12:45 am to FlexDawg
Did H1N1 hit and explode exponentially in 10 days?
Was it so contagious that places saw positive infections doubling every two days?
Was it so contagious that places saw positive infections doubling every two days?
Posted on 3/28/20 at 12:47 am to Toddy
Well why is granny out in public, I thought we were all saving granny.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 12:50 am to magildachunks
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So we wait till all that happens before taking preventative measures is what you want?
My point is this is the first time the media has made a pandemic a big deal and everyone freaked out and shut shite down.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 12:53 am to Toddy
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Was it so contagious that places saw positive infections doubling every two days?
Were they as obsessed with testing then as they are now?
This post was edited on 3/28/20 at 12:58 am
Posted on 3/28/20 at 12:54 am to FlexDawg
You cannot compare 1800 (covid) deaths to 15,000 (h1n1) or seasonal flu (23,000 to date this year).
It is not the same.
Same with hospitals being full. My dad was in the hospital in February and the hospital only had a couple of available rooms. Pneumonia and hit him hard (72 y/o).
Those 15,000 deaths from h1n1 are different....it’s a percentage thing.
And this is more contagious....it’ll make it to 60 million like h1n1 probably (maybe)...once it doubles again next week (or whenever).
Kinda like Cuomo saying he has to have the vents now - but they are going to warehouse them until he needs them (maybe).
Yeah, that’s the ticket.
It is not the same.
Same with hospitals being full. My dad was in the hospital in February and the hospital only had a couple of available rooms. Pneumonia and hit him hard (72 y/o).
Those 15,000 deaths from h1n1 are different....it’s a percentage thing.
And this is more contagious....it’ll make it to 60 million like h1n1 probably (maybe)...once it doubles again next week (or whenever).
Kinda like Cuomo saying he has to have the vents now - but they are going to warehouse them until he needs them (maybe).
Yeah, that’s the ticket.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 12:58 am to FlexDawg
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Lack of ventilators doesn’t hold weight because no US hospital has reached a point to where they were treating so many patients on a ventilator that they ran out.
Oh cool, the number of hospitalized peaked already? You must have a good source for that.
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So they only argument left is hospital beds.
You must have missed the whole part about rate of infection or rate of hospitalization having the potential to overwhelm hospitals. The stay at home orders were to slow the spread of COVID-19 since there was no widespread immunity to it and it is over three times as infectious as the Flu. Congratulations on creating a straw man argument and conveniently forgetting the main argument for Trump and every other leader's response.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 12:59 am to FlexDawg
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Fauci is backtracking so is his previous statement correct or his most recent one?
He isn't back tracking. He said it's like a very bad flu
The seasonal influenze (i.e. not a very bad flu) is what has a .1% mortality rate
He is claiming that it is ten times that. The data we have so far seems to be much closer to 1% than it is to .1%
In fact right now it's at ~1.5%
Posted on 3/28/20 at 12:59 am to FlexDawg
You didn’t even read what you highlighted.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 1:00 am to the808bass
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You didn’t even read what you highlighted.
Or comprehend
Posted on 3/28/20 at 1:01 am to FlexDawg
Heckin deep state is so powerful they forced other countries to shut down and destroy their own economy. All because they’re trying to ruin trump. Argh!
Posted on 3/28/20 at 1:01 am to FlexDawg
I think novel means "new". Is this sis in law again?
Posted on 3/28/20 at 1:03 am to LSU2a
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Oh cool, the number of hospitalized peaked already? You must have a good source for that.
Oh you mean to the peak numbers they just admitted they were dead wrong about? All of this BS is nothing but what if scenarios. How can you say we don’t have enough if we haven’t ran out?
Posted on 3/28/20 at 1:04 am to Jake88
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What was the time period for H1N1? Over how many months were the hospitalizations spread?
The hospitalizations were over one year. So, 274k/12 would be 22,900 hospitalizations/mo.
That would be 500,000 CV patients in a month with a 4.4% hospitalization rate. Assuming worst case that the hospitalized were hospitalized for a month.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 1:06 am to the808bass
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You didn’t even read what you highlighted.
Read the sentence right before the highlighted parts. Says considerably below 1%. Fauci authored that and it’s more recent than the 10x comment.
This post was edited on 3/28/20 at 1:08 am
Posted on 3/28/20 at 1:08 am to FlexDawg
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Says considerably below 1%.
It also says “may.” You are a stupid frick.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 1:12 am to the808bass
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It also says “may.”
And it's making the assumption that there are considerably more unconfirmed asymptomatic cases
From known cases we're looking at around 1.5% mortality in the United States from the data coming in so far. That's higher by a factor of 15. Even if you cut that in half it would be 7 times the mortality rate with what is a more easily transmittable strain than common influenza strains
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