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re: Did Seth Rich Download DNC data on thumb-drive before his murder & FBI has 2 Seth laptops?

Posted on 12/21/22 at 6:58 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 6:58 pm to
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CIA and FBI have high confidence in this judgment;
As both did that Trump paid hookers to pee on a bed in Russia. The SINGLE agency capable of closing this out is the NSA. Yet the NSA cannot prove it, or even imply it with confidence. For ANYONE not personally invested, the warning rockets would be lighting up the sky.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32754 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 7:44 pm to
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Tie it to Wikileaks.


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Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32754 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 7:48 pm to
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The SINGLE agency capable of closing this out is the NSA. Yet the NSA cannot prove it, or even imply it with confidence.


Just going to have to keep posting quotes and links for things already addressed.

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We assess with high confidence that the GRU relayed material it acquired from the DNC and senior Democratic officials to WikiLeaks.


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Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32754 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:06 pm to
Maybe this will help.

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FANCY BEAR adversary used different tradecraft, deploying X-Agent malware with capabilities to do remote command execution, file transmission and keylogging. It was executed via rundll32 commands such as:

(omitted)

In addition, FANCY BEAR’s X-Tunnel network tunneling tool, which facilitates connections to NAT-ed environments, was used to also execute remote commands. Both tools were deployed via RemCOM, an open-source replacement for PsExec available from GitHub. They also engaged in a number of anti-forensic analysis measures, such as periodic event log clearing (via wevtutil cl System and wevtutil cl Security commands) and resetting timestamps of files.


LINK
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:31 pm to
You are a complete tool.
Posted by TigerProwl24
Gulf Coast
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:37 pm to
There is no such thing as half way crooks
This post was edited on 12/26/22 at 8:53 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138920 posts
Posted on 12/22/22 at 7:21 am to
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We assess with high confidence that the GRU relayed material it acquired from the DNC and senior Democratic officials to WikiLeaks.
And as you say, I'm just going to have to raise the obvious red flags, again.

The problem with your "we" in "we assess" is it references discredited agencies. Further, you have the one agency which should be able to nail the perps to the wall, the NSA, instead coming up with questions.

The FBI/CIA vs NSA position comes off like the Sheriff and City Police arresting an anti-LEO activist for arson. They perp walk him. They announce they're 100% confident he's their guy, the firestarter. Meanwhile, the Fire Dept says it can't find solid evidence of arson.

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You argue that Cozy Bear and Fancy Bear accessed the DNC, so they must have been culpable in transferring the 20K emails to Wikileaks. IAW Ockham's razor, the conclusion makes sense. Indeed, when reports first surfaced of the Dutch hacking Russian security cams and computer systems to spy on the Russian computer teams at work, I was a believer too.

Revelations of the Dutch program came at a time the DNC insider-job, no hack, thumbdrive download narrative was taking hold ... along with associated Seth Rich questions. The Dutch story seemed to be a gamechanger. It was fascinating ... a real shiny object.

Then, of course, questions arose: (1) The Dutch were irate we blew their cover. Why would we do that? The only justification was the CIA/FBI solidifying its DNC-hack claims. But goodness, AT WHAT COST? At the cost of exposing a huge intel highway? At the cost of losing treasure troves of future intel? REALLY? Perhaps the assessment of USIC was it needed one helluva shiny object, and we needed it badly enough to screw the Dutch? But why? (2) The Dutch were working hand-in-hand with our NSA. When they'd ID an attempted hack, they'd inform the NSA, and the NSA would shut it down. Why is the same NSA less confident about origins of the DNC data? (3) As is the case with both Crowdstrike and the NSA, there is no Dutch record of DNC data extraction, not even via screenshots. Where is the documented remote DNC network data extraction? No one has demonstrated it.

In the end, you're simply left with the CIA/FBI saying "Ignore the DNC metadata. There's nothing to see here," and insisting the Wikileaks material came from the Russians. They proclaim it with the same assured confidence they had in the Steele Dossier. Their evidence is reduced to "trust us, that's what happened."
Even you see the problem there, Decatur.

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Meanwhile, your "computer expert," Duncan Campbell, is really the basis of your whole "metadata hoax" premise. Isn't he?

Campbell unequivocally establishes a guy named Tim Leonard (a working-class computer-geek in Northeastern England) as the archevil sower of Russian disinformation at the center of all the metadata controversy. He dwells on Tim Leonard. Campbell is obsessed with him. He scandalizes the poor fellow >80X in a single article. Given Leonard's ongoing behavior and vicious misspeak and treachery, indeed cooperation with Russian spy networks as Campbell describes it, Tim Leonard ought to have received the TommyRobinson treatment in England. He certainly deserves time in the Old Bailey. Yet, little Tim Leonard is free as a bird. No charges, civil or criminal. Nothing. Now does that really make sense?

Legitimacy of Campbell's entire yarn is woven around one premise -- Binney changed his mind about validity of the DNC metadata. In fact, Binney's "flip" is essential to giving Campbell any credibility on the subject at all. The problem is, Binney did not change his mind. He didn't 'flip.' Campbell was either conveniently confused or he lied, and with that detail, his story disintegrates, as does his credibility.
This post was edited on 12/22/22 at 7:32 am
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:19 am to
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Further, you have the one agency which should be able to nail the perps to the wall, the NSA, instead coming up with questions.


I’ve already showed you that the NSA joined the high confidence judgement that the GRU hacked the DNC and gave access to the emails to Wikileaks. There were no questions or difference of confidence level on the judgment. Really feel like I’m wasting my time with you. Getting tired of repeating myself.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:58 am to
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There were no questions or difference of confidence level on the judgment.
But there were. Contemporaneous reports were absolutely at odds. Sorry.
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Getting tired of repeating myself.
Likewise.
I'm a little disappointed in you. I thought this could be informative rather than argumentative.
My mistake.

Maybe you just don't understand some of the technical stuff. E.g., The ludicrousness of altering metadata transfer speed and timestamps, when all you'd have to do is scrub the data. Then reload it into a computer simulating the DNC Network environment with whatever timeset you wanted. Then download it to a thumbdrive and voila, the perfect rouse.

Instead, Duncan Campbell asserts the Russians were smart enough to circumvent the NSA, smart enough to remotely hack the DNC, but too stupid to simply reset metadata formatting in a computer environment duplicating that of the DNC, then download it to a thumbdrive. Sorry. That isn't remotely credible.


Do yourself a favor.
Take a peak at what your party looked like in the mid-1970's when stalwarts like Moynihan, Church, Nunn and others were actually willing to question institutions like the FBI.

SMH. What would they say about your party today?
This post was edited on 12/22/22 at 9:54 am
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 12:23 am to
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The fact when your referencing the Mueller Report at all is what is stupid.

The fact that you generalize the Mueller Report in that way is not stupid, it is first class ignorance.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 3:49 pm to
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Seth Rich's parents literally hate yall for dragging his name through this bullshite


The feeling is mutual, it's a shame the parents didn't have half the balls their son had
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 4:50 pm to
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Apologies. I must admit, I'm behind on my conservativetreehouse these days.



You're also behind on growing a brain
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
8654 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 6:03 pm to
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The fact that you generalize the Mueller Report in that way is not stupid, it is first class ignorance.


The ENTIRE premise of the Mueller Report was based on a lie.
Ignorant is as ignorant does.

LINK

Cornell Law Link regarding Fruit of the Poisonous Tree.

There was NO CRIME to bring about the investigation you nitwit.

This is called living in a 3rd World Banana Republic. Congrats.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 12/30/22 at 6:30 am to
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The ENTIRE premise of the Mueller Report was based on a lie. Ignorant is as ignorant does. Cornell Law Link regarding Fruit of the Poisonous Tree.

If you're a lawyer (which I doubt) you should be embarrassed for posting such ignorance. FOTPT is an adage used to describe a rule of evidence.

It is not applicable or analogus to the situation you proposed.

If the Report was based on a lie, what lie do you suggest it was based on?
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