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re: Did Israel Steal Palestinian Land?
Posted on 12/28/23 at 7:25 pm to shrevetigertom
Posted on 12/28/23 at 7:25 pm to shrevetigertom
Let me help you out with a quick history lesson I posted on another thread the other day…
I hope this clears up any confusion. There is no distinct “Palestinian” people. They’re Arabs just like the Arabs living in Israel, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt.
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The Kingdom of Israel was founded over a 1,000 years before the birth of Christ. About 900 BC it split into two kingdoms, Israel and Judah.
The term Palestine didn’t exist until the 3rd century BC and is derived from the Greek word for Philistines, which themselves were not Arab and as a distinct group no longer exist. The “Palestinians” of today are Arabs.
Also, the area Jesus lived in was called Judaea during his lifetime. Judaea is the name the Roman Empire gave to their new Provence when they conquered the area less than a century before the birth of Christ and is derived from its original name Judah. The term “Jew” means someone from Judah.
It wasn’t until a century after Christ’s death when following the province of Judea's second insurrection, the Romans renamed the province Syria Palaestina—that is, “Palestinian Syria.” They did so as a punishment, to obliterate the link between the Jews and Judaea.
If you invented a Time Machine and went back to this area during the age of Christ, you’d not find anyone calling themselves a “Palestinian”.
I hope this clears up any confusion. There is no distinct “Palestinian” people. They’re Arabs just like the Arabs living in Israel, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt.
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Posted on 12/28/23 at 7:28 pm to shrevetigertom
I don’t think so, but I don’t really care. I have no issue with them fighting over it and the winner takes all.
We just need to stay out of it.
We just need to stay out of it.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 7:32 pm to Bunk Moreland
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This map outdates your map by roughly 3,000 years.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 7:33 pm to Darth_Vader
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I hope this clears up any confusion. There is no distinct “Palestinian” people. They’re Arabs just like the Arabs living in Israel, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt.
So dumb, Darth.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 7:35 pm to Darth_Vader
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This map outdates your map by roughly 3,000 years.
Cool. So if a Native American posts a map of North America from before European settlement it means that this is their land, right?
Again, so dumb. Be better.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 7:38 pm to Mo Jeaux
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So dumb, Darth.
Point to what I said was wrong you stupid little shite again troll. Otherwise shut up, you little bitch.
This post was edited on 12/28/23 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 12/28/23 at 7:39 pm to tommy2tone1999
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Palestine was never a country, so no.
This is the answer.
Israel then attempted to give Palestinians land multiple times before withdrawing altogether from the gaza strip
Posted on 12/28/23 at 7:39 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Cool. So if a Native American posts a map of North America from before European settlement it means that this is their land, right? Again, so dumb. Be better.
Jews have been there all along you ignorant frick. And there is no such people as “Palestinians”. They’re Arabs you stupid frick.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 7:45 pm to Darth_Vader
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Darth_Vader
On your period again? Let’s try this again when you’re not being a pissy little bitch (and historically stupid).
This post was edited on 12/28/23 at 7:46 pm
Posted on 12/28/23 at 7:50 pm to Mo Jeaux
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On your period again? Let’s try this again when you’re not being a pissy little bitch (and historically stupid).
Calls me historically stupid but fails to point to anything I said that was wrong, even after being challenged do so. You don’t know your arse from a hole in the ground. And you’re too stupid to understand how stupid you are.
You’re nothing more than a punk little bitch. Shut the frick up boy. The adults are talking.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 7:52 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Mo Jeaux
You’re the poster child of how effective leftist propaganda is on those too stupid and ignorant to know better than believe it.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 8:02 pm to Darth_Vader
I’m not a leftist, nor do I espouse leftist views.
This post was edited on 12/28/23 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 12/28/23 at 8:03 pm to Darth_Vader
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Calls me historically stupid but fails to point to anything I said that was wrong, even after being challenged do so.
Because your assertion was too stupid to counter.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 8:10 pm to Mo Jeaux
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I’m not a leftist, nor do I espouse leftist views.
I knew you were stupid. But I didn’t realize you were so stupid you don’t even realize you’re parroting false leftist talking points. Let me clue you in. I’ve read your replies in this thread. You’ve made it obvious you’ve fallen for the false narrative that’s permeated the West for the last 20 years. You’ve been indoctrinated and you’re too stupid to know it.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 8:17 pm to shrevetigertom
Posted on 12/28/23 at 8:18 pm to Darth_Vader
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you’re parroting false leftist talking points.
About settlement issues in the West Bank? Are you high?
This post was edited on 12/28/23 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 12/28/23 at 8:18 pm to Don Quixote
“Stolen land” is such a strange obsession…no one truly owns land unless they have power to keep it. So saying someone stole land is the same as saying someone lost land. If Palestine cannot keep the land that they claim then they don’t own it….each and every civilization has conquered someone else for control of land.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 8:22 pm to Don Quixote
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don't even need to waste my time with the "discussion" as I know the answer is: No
ETA: also, false premise as there is no such thing as a "palestinian"
As Alon Confino would tell you, that’s not true, and you’ve been fed a lie
Posted on 12/28/23 at 8:23 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Because your assertion was too stupid to counter.
Point to a specific assertion.
Was it when I said the Kingdom of Israel was founded ten centuries before the common age?
Was it when I said the Kingdom of Judah split off from Israel approximately 900 years before the common age?
Was it when I said the modern term “Palestinian” derives from Greek for Philistines, a people who were conquered and ceased to exist as a culture and distinct people thousands of years before Arab culture came to the region?
Was it when I asserted roughly a century before the birth of Christ the Romans conquered Judah and it became the Roman Provence of Judaea?
Was it when I asserted the term “Jew” literally means “one from Judaea?
Was it when I asserted roughly a century after the death of Christ the Romans sacked Jerusalem following the 2nd Jewish Revolt and renamed the Provence of Judaea “Syrian Palestine”.
All of these things I said are well established historic fact. So show me what, in your stupid little pea brain, you think is wrong.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 8:29 pm to shrevetigertom
Damascus was the provincial capital in the Ottoman period, and the money was there. Many of these rich Syrians had large holdings in what is now Israel. These were the people the early Zionists were buying their land from. It was a personally unfortunate deal for the Palestinians, because they were often renters and long term renters, and they lost out with these sales. But it was all fair and legal.
In the war though there was a mass appropriation of housing from the Palestinians who fled the fighting. And Israeli has continually annexed and appropriated Palestinian property since then.
In the war though there was a mass appropriation of housing from the Palestinians who fled the fighting. And Israeli has continually annexed and appropriated Palestinian property since then.
This post was edited on 12/28/23 at 8:58 pm
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