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re: Did anyone mention that Putin told Clinton that Russia was interested in joining NATO?

Posted on 2/9/24 at 2:08 am to
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15048 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 2:08 am to
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Well the Soviet Union was dismantled no? And they are still to this day trying to get Ukraine and Georgia to join, and work with Moldova. Seems to me like western expansion pissing people off.


Pissing the Russians off. The people of Ukraine, Georgia and Moldava want to live European aand Anglo-Saxon lives, not the backwards Slavic lives of Russia.

So if I am Georgian, Ukranian or Moldavan I am pissed at Russia and not at the USA.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146953 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 4:01 am to
TUCKER: Who blew up Nord Stream?

PUTIN: You for sure.

TUCKER: I was busy that day. I did not blow up Nord Stream. Thank you though.

PUTIN: You personally may have an alibi, but the CIA has no such alibi.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123945 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 4:38 am to
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Did anyone mention that Putin told Clinton that Russia was interested in joining NATO?
And Clinton said no.
We've discussed that here in the past. As Putin previously put it, he said NATO was an anti-USSR military alliance, but Russia wanted to ally. The rejection formally denoted NATO as anti-Russian, and reset the US-Russia relationship.

The NATO rejection occurred about the same time Communist China was granted admission to the WTO and received its coveted most favored nation trading status as a permanent assignment.

Those considerations were not offered to Russia for another 10-11yrs.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123945 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 4:52 am to
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we said yest, but for God'ssake stop being so stupid and corrupt. They chose not to listen.
You are incredibly naive.

Let's try this a different way.

If we had provided Yeltsin and democratized Russia with the amount of aid we're now pissing away in Ukraine, would Putin have even ever happened?

If Russia was a NATO member, obviously Ukraine would not be at war, but would China be threatening Taiwan, and 90% of the planet's microchip supply?

Can you not wrap your head around the massive opportunities we missed while Bill focused on the head in his lap instead of challenges of Bin Laden and Yeltsin?
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146953 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 4:56 am to
They told us Biden was ok. Now they're stuck with him.

DO NOT BAIL THEM OUT.


A DEMOCRAT needs to get to a podium and be a mature adult. They won't.

Heck, Turtle pronbably thinks Biden is fine as they stare into their pudding cups at lunch.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40139 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 5:09 am to
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I’ve always said that Russia should be our ally.

Apparently the left and Deep State think otherwise.



When President Jack Ryan invited Russia to join NATO it led to a shooting war with China and China fired a nuke that was barely intercepted before detonating over Washington DC. Then Russia went on to be a pain in the arse of NATO before leaving and invading Ukraine.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6597 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 5:16 am to
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And Clinton said no.

I’ve always said that Russia should be our ally.

Apparently the left and Deep State think otherwise.


You can't even get your gotcha correct. Putin said Clinton said yes and then was told he couldn't by the higher ups. Then he said the same thing happened with Bush.
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
10717 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 6:17 am to
Takeaways from the interview:

The president doesn’t run the United States. The people that run the US have to have wars.

Presidents that didn’t bend the knee to the MIC: JFK, Trump

The first was killed, the second was ousted by a man made global pandemic and a poorly run election.

Think about that…..

Russia should be our ally
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