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Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:47 pm to SammyTiger
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which line says the president can do whatever he wants if he calls it foreign policy?
First he isn't doing whatever he wants. He's following law.
Second, it's lines. The president’s authority in foreign affairs, as in all areas, is rooted in Article II of the Constitution.
Presidents also draw on statutory authorities. Congress has passed legislation giving the executive additional authority to act on specific foreign policy issues. For instance, the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (1977) authorizes the president to impose economic sanctions on foreign entities.
Are you saying a president can be taken to court for imposing econmic sanctions? Come on now.
U.S. Supreme Court decisions—United States. v. Curtiss-Wright Export Corporation (1936)
Justice George Sutherland’s expansive interpretation of the president’s foreign affairs powers in that case. The president is “the sole organ of the federal government in the field of international relations,” he wrote on behalf of the court. “He, not Congress, has the better opportunity of knowing conditions which prevail in foreign countries and especially is this true in time of war,” he wrote.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:47 pm to Bandit1980
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Which part of " illegal, law-breaking, felonious, not U.S. citizen" do you not get? If you came in illegally, you have ZERO rights under our constitution, and crossed an international border which makes it a federal felony. As all of the great law-abiding Dems said, " no-one is above the law". And yes, this includes all of the ignorant jackass Dems..................and their muchacho followers.
Sammy is purposefully confusing deportation with imprisonment. These illegals are not being imprisoned unless they were already found guilty in a court of law. If they were = deported. Others, having already committed a crime are subject to deportation because of illegal entry into the country. The law is so clear that Sammy is going to run away and not address it.
He's playing internet lawyer, and sucks at it.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:47 pm to BugAC
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(2) The denial of a request for an administrative stay of removal under this subsection shall not preclude the alien from applying for a stay of removal, deferred action, or a continuance or abeyance of removal proceedings under any other provision of the immigration laws of the United States.
Same law.
what about this law?
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a) Notice to appear (1) In general In removal proceedings under section 1229a of this title, written notice (in this section referred to as a “notice to appear”) shall be given in person to the alien (or, if personal service is not practicable, through service by mail to the alien or to the alien’s counsel of record, if any) specifying the following: (A) The nature of the proceedings against the alien. (B) The legal authority under which the proceedings are conducted. (C) The acts or conduct alleged to be in violation of law. (D) The charges against the alien and the statutory provisions alleged to have been violated. (E) The alien may be represented by counsel and the alien will be provided (i) a period of time to secure counsel under subsection (b)(1) and (ii) a current list of counsel prepared under subsection (b)(2). (F) (i) The requirement that the alien must immediately provide (or have provided) the Attorney General with a written record of an address and telephone number (if any) at which the alien may be contacted respecting proceedings under section 1229a of this title. (ii) The requirement that the alien must provide the Attorney General immediately with a written record of any change of the alien’s address or telephone number. (iii) The consequences under section 1229a(b)(5) of this title of failure to provide address and telephone information pursuant to this subparagraph. (G) (i) The time and place at which the proceedings will be held. (ii) The consequences under section 1229a(b)(5) of this title of the failure, except under exceptional circumstances, to appear at such proceedings.
Do they have to follow 8 US Code 1229?
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:49 pm to BugAC
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:52 pm to SammyTiger
Idiot. They are already found guilty of their crimes! They had due process.
BYE BYE!
BYE BYE!
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:56 pm to SammyTiger
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Do they have to follow 8 US Code 1229?
You tell me:
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(B)Exception
In the case of an alien not in detention, a written notice shall not be required under this paragraph if the alien has failed to provide the address required under paragraph (1)(F).
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(1)In the case of an alien who is convicted of an offense which makes the alien deportable, the Attorney General shall begin any removal proceeding as expeditiously as possible after the date of the conviction.
Oh look, here are the offenses of your predators you are defending:
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Thongxay Nilakout, a Laos citizen who was convicted of first-degree murder and robbery and was sentenced to life behind bars, is also on the flight. He was arrested in January by ICE.
Mexican citizen Jesus Munoz-Gutierrez is convicted of second-degree murder, and was taken into ICE custody earlier this month.
Dian Peter Domach of South Sudan is convicted of a DUI, "possession of burglar’s tools and possession of defaced firearm; sentenced to 18 months confinement" and "robbery and possession of a firearm; sentenced to 8 years confinement." He was arrested by ICE earlier this month.
Two Burmese citizens, Kyaw Mya and Nyo Myint, are also headed to the African nation on the flight. Mya is convicted of "Lascivious Acts with a Child-Victim less than 12 years of age." He was sentenced to 10 years behind bars, but he was paroled after four years. Myint is convicted of "first-degree sexual assault involving a victim mentally and physically incapable of resisting" and faced 12 years behind bars. He was also charged with "aggravated assault-nonfamily strongarm." Both were arrested by ICE in February.
Vietnamese citizen Tuan Thanh Phan, a citizen of Vietnam, is convicted of "first-degree murder and second-degree assault."
DHS officials noted at Wednesday's briefing that the home countries of each of the illegal immigrants refused to take them back to their home soil.
All convicted under a court of law.
And if that isn't enough, let's look at:
8 U.S. Code § 1228 - Expedited removal of aliens convicted of committing aggravated felonies
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(a)Removal of criminal aliens
(1)In general
The Attorney General shall provide for the availability of special removal proceedings at certain Federal, State, and local correctional facilities for aliens convicted of any criminal offense covered in section 1227(a)(2)(A)(iii), (B), (C), or (D) of this title, or any offense covered by section 1227(a)(2)(A)(ii) of this title for which both predicate offenses are, without regard to the date of their commission, otherwise covered by section 1227(a)(2)(A)(i) of this title. Such proceedings shall be conducted in conformity with section 1229a of this title (except as otherwise provided in this section), and in a manner which eliminates the need for additional detention at any processing center of the Service and in a manner which assures expeditious removal following the end of the alien’s incarceration for the underlying sentence. Nothing in this section shall be construed to create any substantive or procedural right or benefit that is legally enforceable by any party against the United States or its agencies or officers or any other person.
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(3)Expedited proceedings
(A)Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the Attorney General shall provide for the initiation and, to the extent possible, the completion of removal proceedings, and any administrative appeals thereof, in the case of any alien convicted of an aggravated felony before the alien’s release from incarceration for the underlying aggravated felony.
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(b)Removal of aliens who are not permanent residents
(1)The Attorney General may, in the case of an alien described in paragraph (2), determine the deportability of such alien under section 1227(a)(2)(A)(iii) of this title (relating to conviction of an aggravated felony) and issue an order of removal pursuant to the procedures set forth in this subsection or section 1229a of this title.
(2)An alien is described in this paragraph if the alien—
(A)was not lawfully admitted for permanent residence at the time at which proceedings under this section commenced; or
(B)had permanent resident status on a conditional basis (as described in section 1186a of this title) at the time that proceedings under this section commenced.
Maybe you should go bitch to the Attorney General?
This post was edited on 5/21/25 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:00 pm to BCreed1
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Second, it's lines. The president’s authority in foreign affairs, as in all areas, is rooted in Article II of the Constitution.
yeah which line in that Article.
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Presidents also draw on statutory authorities. Congress has passed legislation giving the executive additional authority to act on specific foreign policy issues. For instance, the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (1977) authorizes the president to impose economic sanctions on foreign entities. Are you saying a president can be taken to court for imposing econmic sanctions? Come on now.
Again, that is a statutory power given to the president by congress. The president has been taken to court over sanction.
And generally he has won, but it’s
reviewable.
Also worth noting, that these people are inside the united states. this isn’t a purely foreign policy issue.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:03 pm to SammyTiger
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And generally he has won,
And why has he won?
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:05 pm to SammyTiger
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Also worth noting, that these people are inside the united states. this isn’t a purely foreign policy issue.
and these specific people have all been convicted of felonies, have been in our prisons, and by every letter of the law has been deported.
You just said that Trump will likely win the court case. So you are doing exactly what we are saying you are doing. You simply want to obstruct and slow down Trump. And you're mad it isnt' working. Seethe...
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:05 pm to SammyTiger
You need to read above this post of yours. You are 100% wrong and you are getting a lesson they should have taught you in school.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:06 pm to BugAC
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And you're mad it isnt' working. Seethe...
I love this BugAC guy!!!
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:09 pm to BugAC
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And why has he won?
because their actions under that statute have been lawful.
Each statute is different.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:10 pm to SammyTiger
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because their actions under that statute have been lawful.
Say it again.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:10 pm to BugAC
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You just said that Trump will likely win the court case. So you are doing exactly what we are saying you are doing. You simply want to obstruct and slow down Trump. And you're mad it isnt' working. Seethe
if by that, you mean i want him to just follow the legal procedures set out for him, then yeah sure “slow down and obstruct”
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:11 pm to SammyTiger
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If they brought a suit in Mass, and were deported from mass, a Mass judge would have full authority to stat or reverse the deportation while legal challenges are heard.
Nope not anymore bitch
quote:and if the judge doesn't like it he can suck my dick. They're already gone.
And if the Admin doesn’t like it they can go to an appeal court and the SCOTUS
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:12 pm to BugAC
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Say it again.
that’s a fact specific statement.
in the specific situations where the IEEP was challenged, the law providing the president the power to issue sanctions is broad and the president has acted lawfully under the statute.
My argument isn’t that congress can’t grand then president authority, or he has no authority.
it’s that saying something is “foreign policy”
doesn’t mean he can’t be challenged if he’s outside the laws that apply.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:12 pm to SammyTiger
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if by that, you mean i want him to just follow the legal procedures set out for him, then yeah sure “slow down and obstruct”
I just laid out every law pertinent to illegal immigration. You read it. The reason you didn't reply to those posts is because you know i'm right and because you suck at playing lawyer.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:12 pm to SammyTiger
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that’s nonsense
they can if it violates the law in their jurisdiction
Good lord I can't decide if you're retarded or trolling
Posted on 5/21/25 at 1:13 pm to BugAC
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