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re: DeSantis'Congressional letter supporting Victoria Nuland's Maidan coup in Ukraine 2014

Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:00 am to
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57898 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:00 am to
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What exactly is wrong with that letter in 2014?



She doesn't know. She copy/pasted from conservativetreehouse without reading what she posted. She has no clue what she is doing.

Crazy cat lady strikes again with her weaponized autism.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477243 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:01 am to
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What exactly is wrong with that letter in 2014?

The biggest issue in that letter is it resets their start date of this conflict.

They want SO BAD for the US to be blamed for responding to Russia starting this conflict (via the acts in the letter committed by their puppet), that their entire rhetoric requires starting in 2014 after the organic Maidan revolution gave the West opportunity to respond to Russia.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
9405 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:06 am to
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Was this before or after Trump sold arms to Ukraine in 2018?


This. It's as though all of Trump's actions are irrelevant. His top advisor registered as a Lobbyist for Ukraine in 2019 for crying out loud.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167592 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:10 am to
Good Lord that is highly documented as the reasoning to impeach Trump for the Ukraine call. The aide to Ukraine has been on the books at the State Department probably since 2004.

It is a revolving State Dept. thing. Trump gave them what they needed and not some NGO blankets, Hillary & Toria Nuland color books, and color revolution signs.

Trump gave them what they needed so the USA didn't have to start a proxy war with Russia in Ukraine. He froze the aide to Ukraine for a bit to study WTF the State Dept was doing.

That is a weak, backasswards talking point.

Next issue? How about DeSantis' foreign policy? Is DeSantis a neocon, yes or no?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477243 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:14 am to
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Is DeSantis a neocon, yes or no?

We don't know and that letter doesn't move the needle one way or the other.

Again

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What, specifically, in that letter do you have issue with?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57898 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:18 am to
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Next issue?


Hmmm, anxious to "move along" eh?

The irony of you posting something about DeSantis, (which you haven't explained how that letter or DeSantis statement is bad, by the way) about Ukraine yet are completely ignoring Trump actually giving arms to Ukraine, and are making excuses for it, meanwhile some letter that is factual based is somehow bad because it says "Ukraine" in it shows everyone your lack of intelligence on the matter. Conservativetreehouse isn't going to save you on this. Stop posting their autists hit pieces. It will save you embarrassment.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167592 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:28 am to
Get out of the weeds. It is simple.

DeSantis flip-flopped on Ukraine calling it a territorial dispute, while being on the steering committee of the 2014 color revolution.

Why don't you take the time & watch Ukraine On Fire Congress critters knew exactly what Victoria Nuland & Pushaw, McCain, Kerry, et al... were up to.

Did Congressman DeSantis speak out on Nuland much less the USA biochem labs in Ukraine? The biochem labs that were so innocuous that Toria Nuland was worried Russia would get their hands on them?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477243 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:37 am to
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while being on the steering committee of the 2014 color revolution.

The Maidan revolution was already underway when the letter was written. Russia created that problem (via their puppet rejecting the EU track they had been working on for so long). So, other than the fact that this letter doesn't do what I just quoted, you don't even understand the events going on.

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much less the USA biochem labs in Ukraine

OH shite. It's a party now
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
13980 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:45 am to
Yikes
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477243 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:19 am to
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What, specifically, in that letter do you have issue with?
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