re: DeSantis Signs Bill Prohibiting Medical Marijuana At Florida Recovery Residences

So a drug rehab facility doesn’t allow drugs.

Weird.

Maybe you’re right. I hate marijuana usage especially in young people where it has the potential to destroy their mental development.

I can see where it can be useful for getting people off of stronger substances but what about creating new weed addicts? Perhaps I need to be more educated on the process.

That is stupid. Pot is an easy win, but he fumbles before taking the handoff.

I don't understand this thought process of how keeping it illegal is supposed to stop young people from smoking it. That hasn't worked the whole time we've had a prohibition on weed and yet it keeps getting repeated.

Also, I'm not saying suboxone and similar things aren't beneficial. They are, they work wonders for some people. My issue with them was I felt like I was on dope again. If you don't have those meds, you start to withdrawal. But some people stay on their whole lives and are very successful. Others taper down successfully but remain on a "maintenance dose" so they don't have to fight the battles of getting off it.

TBH, your creating new weed addicts comment is comical to me. But, at least you have self awareness and understand you need more education on it. That's at least more than what many are willing to admit (myself included, just in regards to other things).

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but what about creating new weed addicts?

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Addicts are addicts no matter what. It is as much mental as anything else. Would you rather them smoke weed or shoot up/smoke meth?

MJ is the less harmful alternative. Without an alternative over 90% of people relapse.

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I don't understand this thought process of how keeping it illegal is supposed to stop young people from smoking it.

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I don’t think it should be illegal, actually. My neighbor has severe PTSD from Iraq and smokes weed to not wig out on all of us.

Tobacco usage has gone down in young people while still remaining legal through massive campaigns against it.

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Also, I'm not saying suboxone and similar things aren't beneficial. They are, they work wonders for some people. My issue with them was I felt like I was on dope again. If you don't have those meds, you start to withdrawal. But some people stay on their whole lives and are very successful. Others taper down successfully but remain on a "maintenance dose" so they don't have to fight the battles of getting off it.

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I guess I’m thinking more on a macro level instead of a micro level. I feel for anyone that’s addicted and needs help and I hope they get everything they need to get off of whatever they’re on. My argument is that getting them onto marijuana permanently/semi-permanently probably isn’t best practice for their livelihoods.

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TBH, you creating new weed addicts is comical to me.

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Is it not addictive? I’ve purposely avoided cannabis my entire life but have known many that use it and used it for years and I notice their addiction whether or not they admit they’re addicted. Their cognitive functions take a nosedive as well.

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So basically instead of being addicted to something else you’re getting them addicted to marijuana instead. Correct? Well what gets them off of marijuana?

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Here are the statistics for you. Educate yourself

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Over 2/3 of people in recovery will relapse within weeks of beginning drug rehab

Between 40% and 60% of people suffering from substance use disorders will relapse within one month of completing inpatient treatment

Approximately one in five people will remain in recovery one year after a full addiction treatment program, with around 80% to 85% of people relapsing in that time, meaning only 15% to 20% of addicts stay clean

There is a 40% chance of relapsing within the first 2 years of recovery

After three years in recovery, the risk of relapsing reduces to around 9.6%, and after five years there is a 7.2% chance of relapsing

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Would you rather them be addicted to MJ or stay addicted to Meth, crack, etc?

It seems many people's ideas of weed ITT are very outdated and don't come from personal experiences.

I'll add that I agree it shouldn't be allowed in halfway or three quarter houses. I think it's stupid for a governor to concern himself with it, tbh. I guess because some of these houses are controlled by the government and with medical marijuana being prescribed, it's an issue. That said, it's never been one I've run across. Every single house I've ever heard of has a zero tolerance policy for everything, including weed. That's out here in Cali too.

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Don't call if "battling addiction" if you're making the only two options meth addiction or weed addiction.

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There are other alternatives. Some have been mentioned ITT. Weening someone off of drugs isn't a one size fits all. Some use methadone, some use suboxone, some use MJ, etc.

Those are all substances that can be addictive too but are all still safer than the alternative and when used as part of a regimen can help successfully treat an addict.

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There are other alternatives. Some have been mentioned ITT. Weening someone off of drugs isn't a one size fits all. Some use methadone, some use suboxone, some use MJ, etc.

Those are all substances that can be addictive too but are all still safer than the alternative and when used as part of a regimen can help successfully treat an addict.

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So therein lies my question. Do you personally believe that MJ usage is inherently harmful? And if addicts are addicted to it as a means off being of something stronger, should there be some sort of next step to get them off of MJ as well?