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re: Deportations aren’t enough we need to destroy them economically

Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:34 pm to
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
4415 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:34 pm to
Figure out now to regulate the Western Union system.

An/or ANY other means of sending money back to their folks In their country.

If they are “sending from the USA machines”, then they have to input identification that is verified etc…

And if they don’t have identification. They can’t send money down there.

That would put a dent in their every day life. Upon payday, they are all usually sending money back home.

Not sure of all the systems they have now & how it easy/hard it would be to enforce it on the “money transfer companies”, but have Congress pass some regulation that mandates the companies to “e-verify” type of situation.

If they can’t send it back home, that causes major problems for most.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:34 pm to
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Because they are afraid of the consequences of staying and being caught.

If Trump's deal with El Salvador goes through, you better believe people will be self-deporting. Because having nothing in Mexico is 100 times better than being in prison in El Salvador.


Your garden variety Mexican illegal won't be deported to El Salvador man. That's not gonna happen. In fact, I'll believe El Salvador takes any illegal that isn't their own when I see it.
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
9874 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:40 pm to
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Who's going to take those jobs? They are working there for a reason.


Americans.
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.where is the line of people who want to do these menail jobs for little pay?


There's no line. They'll hire school kids and part time college kids. Ex cons and people who just want a job. The wages will obviously be higher.

The reason people employ illegals is not because they can't find Americans to do it. Its because illegals put more money in their pockets. That's the truth.

Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
7674 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:45 pm to
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In fact, I'll believe El Salvador takes any illegal that isn't their own when I see it.


Even if promised hundreds of millions of dollars, and promises of protection and infrastructure upgrades?
We have private corrections facilties in the US. It's not a stretch to pay another country to do the job.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10342 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:46 pm to
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This is what totalitarian regimes do


No, totalitarian regimes ignore the laws they don't like. Constitutional republics uphold the law. If those officials deliberately obstruct law enforcement efforts they will be breaking the law. There is absolutely no reason to not hold them accountable for doing so.

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Who's going to take those jobs?
. Citizens or other people who are here legally.

We've got a few options for a labor shortage. One, we could stop paying so many Americans to sit on their asses. Surely at least some of those people would rather work than starve.

Two, we could issue work visas.

Three, we could do nothing and let the businesses themselves adapt. If they were making it because they were paying slave labor wages, they may not survive it, but is that really a big concern of yours? You really want to go to bat for Big Construction, who has been exploiting these people for decades?

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So intimidation tactics?


Not at all. Investigation tactics.

They asked Willie Sutton why he robbed banks. He said, "Because that's where the money is."
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10342 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:47 pm to
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That's not gonna happen.


I say it will.

Since you gave no substantiation for your claim, mine's just as valid.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92267 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:48 pm to
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Because having nothing in Mexico is 100 times better than being in prison in El Salvador.


That was the agreement to keep them in El Salvador prison upon deportation?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10342 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:51 pm to
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Figure out now to regulate the Western Union system.


Y'all keep posting stuff like this, but wiring money isn't the only way to send people money now. PayPal, Venmo, Wise, Zell, Google Pay, etc., etc. You don't need a SS card to open a bank account. You can transfer money from one bank account to another direct...you don't even need an intermediary.

Heck, if you can find a bank that does business in both the US and Mexico, you don't even have to transfer it. Just deposit it in the account and someone in Mexico who is on the account can withdraw it.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10342 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:54 pm to
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That was the agreement to keep them in El Salvador prison upon deportation?


Not specifically, but these first rounds of deportation are criminals, and El Salvador isn't exactly being scrupulous about upholding people's rights.

They are basically just deciding that someone is undesirable and then just locking them up indefinitely.

They are even ignoring their own courts and judges. I was reading yesterday about a guy who was ordered to be released by a judge/court twice who is still in prison.
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10715 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:55 pm to
Alot of them must be self deporting. I work in Odessa and it seems like half the traffic is gone. Parking lots at grocery stores aren't full anymore.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10342 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:56 pm to
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The reason people employ illegals is not because they can't find Americans to do it. Its because illegals put more money in their pockets.


Well, and they don't complain endlessly and want to report stuff to HR endlessly and claim racism, sexual harassment, cry "nobody here appreciates me" endlessly.

They are cheaper and WAY easier.
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
3410 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:57 pm to
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That will work out great. Sink the global economy just to punish people who werent responsible. Your own government paid for and helped arrange for these immigrants. Thats who needs to be punished. Those "bills no one ever read" Sinking latin America will have profoundly negative effects on our economy.


Let see since the 2000s will the flood of illegals


-Wages stagnated

-Housing increased

-Housing quality decreased


-More young men are unemployed than ever


- Our medical system are being overwhelmed and we don’t have funding to keep up


America is more than a global economy we are a nation of people who fought to have a decent quality of life we aren’t a gdp number.
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
9874 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:58 pm to
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want to report stuff to HR endlessly and claim racism, sexual harassment, cry "nobody here appreciates me" endlessly.


Bruh they don't have HR in crawfish ponds and construction sites.
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
3410 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:00 pm to
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This isn't a great plan. Why would anyone say anything except American citizen not like the hospital knows or can enforce it..


Florida did this and just simply asked the question and it halved the number of illegals in hospitals

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Define interfere here.


Refusing to hold illegals in jail and release them to avoid deportation
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
3410 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:00 pm to
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this is the kind of overreach Democrats are hoping for so they can argue it in front of a judge and delay


Overreach? It’s already federal law
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
3410 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:01 pm to
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We won on immigration in 2016 and ran on it in 2020.


We won 2016 because we caught the off guard they thought Trump was a joke
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10342 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:02 pm to
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Bruh they don't have HR in crawfish ponds and construction sites.


They do in Home Depot.

Bruh.
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
3410 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:05 pm to
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Who's going to take those jobs? They are working there for a reason.
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..in this struggling economy? The cost of groceries isn't coming down


Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92267 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:05 pm to
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Not specifically, but these first rounds of deportation are criminals, and El Salvador isn't exactly being scrupulous about upholding people's rights.


Ok was wondering where they would go once off the plane. Figured it would be a camp ( )
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
3410 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:07 pm to
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This is what totalitarian regimes do....lets not go there
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So intimidation tactics? ...to what end? What is the end goal of deporting all these people....where is the line of people who want to do these menail jobs for little pay?


We just had 4 years of Biden admin

Jailing a former president

Jail pro life activist

Targeting conservatives


Yet this is what you’re still worried about
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