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re: Democrats more open to criticism of Biden within party than Republicans for Trump (Pew)

Posted on 10/7/21 at 4:58 pm to
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
7502 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 4:58 pm to
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Bob Menendez criticizes Biden's botched withdrawal.


He blamed Trump in your link numb nuts.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19498 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 5:16 pm to
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Bob Menendez criticizes Biden's botched withdrawal.
Thanks, that’s the first I’ve heard of that.

I was unable to find any mention of it in the major news media, however. How many Democratic voters are even aware of it?

Here’s a WaPo article that mentions Menendez and a few other Dem Senators (although only Menendez specifically named Biden in his statement). Also 3 Dem Representatives, accounting for roughly 1.3% of their 224 members.

And I’ve yet go find any evidence of significant public criticism of Biden by Democrats over any issue other than the Afghanistan debacle (which they quickly point out was largely due to “Trump’s flawed withdrawal plan”.
Posted by LordOfDebate99
Member since Oct 2021
86 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 5:18 pm to
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He blamed Trump in your link numb nuts.


He blamed Trump AND Biden if you read.

He called it Biden's botched withdrawal.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93129 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 5:21 pm to
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He called it Biden's botched withdrawal.



Woah that's some big time stuff. Really going hard at the guy
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21768 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 5:30 pm to
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quote:
A 63% majority of Republicans say their party should be not too (32%) or not at all (30%) accepting of elected officials who openly criticize Trump, according to the new survey. Just 36% of Republicans say the GOP should be very (11%) or somewhat (26%) accepting of officials who do so.

By contrast, about six-in-ten Democrats say the Democratic Party should be very (17%) or somewhat accepting (40%) of Democratic elected officials who openly criticize President Joe Biden.


Thought this was fairly interesting. Why are Republicans not as accepting of criticism of Trump compared with Democrats for Biden?

I think a review of the meaning of "should be" and "are" are in order here.

No doubt, I can see Democrats in their fantasy world imagining being skeptical/critical of their leaders because we all know that's healthy. But are Biden voters critical of Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff, the dude that f'd the Chinese spy? No, they're not. Not at all.

That said, too many on the Right hyperventilate when Trump is criticized. It's understandable to a point, given all the fake controversies his administration had to deal with, the realities of permanent gov't, his treatment by the media and how unhinged the Left is - but still, it would be nice if there were more adults in the room on the Right.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
Reseda
Member since Feb 2007
19696 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 5:37 pm to
This a surprise. The poliboard is super open and accepting to those that criticize trump.
Posted by LordOfDebate99
Member since Oct 2021
86 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 5:53 pm to
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Woah that's some big time stuff. Really going hard at the guy



We weren't talking about the intensity of criticism but criticism in general.

The question was regarding whether any Democrats have criticized Biden, not whether any Democrats have criticized Biden intensely.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 6:02 pm to
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But are Biden voters critical of Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff, the dude that f'd the Chinese spy? No, they're not.


Do you have any the data to back up this claim?
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
8136 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 6:24 pm to
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Do you have any the data to back up this claim?


It's called having a functional brain and being able to conceptualize what one reads, hears and sees on a day to day basis.

Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 6:32 pm to
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Why are Republicans not as accepting of criticism of Trump compared with Democrats for Biden?



as noted on this board by others there is now a gop catechism on TD and nationally.

Liz Cheney is case #1.

look at trump supporting primaries against sitting office holders who will not bend the knee.

it reminds me of fundementalists.

Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 6:34 pm to
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hears and sees on a day to day basis.


You'd think this would be an easy thing to collect data on. In fact the OP's link did! And it directly refutes what you said. Do you think people should trust you? Or scientists collecting data?

You should collect your own data and prove them wrong!
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93129 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 6:41 pm to
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We weren't talking about the intensity of criticism but criticism in general.



Lmao yeah that's big time criticism

You clowns love moving thr goal posts
Posted by LordOfDebate99
Member since Oct 2021
86 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 6:46 pm to
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You clowns love moving thr goal posts



I'm the one who moved the goal posts?

I was asked about criticism and now you've shifted the discussion onto level of criticism.

You're the one who's moved the goal posts and are now accusing me of doing so.

Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84046 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 7:03 pm to
Why did you alter pussy?
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 9:59 pm to
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Liz Cheney is case #1.


In not representing your constituency. Elected representatives are there to REPRESENT those who elected them. Their personal feelings are completely irrelevant.

The fact that someone like you defends her illustrates how she is the wrong person for the job.
This post was edited on 10/7/21 at 10:01 pm
Posted by Snazzmeister
IHTFP
Member since Jan 2015
1145 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 10:08 pm to
Because Biden has no base. Which is why his disapproval rating has no floor. Compare criticism of Trump and Bernie, then you might have something.
This post was edited on 10/7/21 at 10:14 pm
Posted by BillRose
Texas
Member since Jun 2021
989 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 10:12 pm to
I can say the tide has turned, if one were to visit a Marjorie Taylor Green site on Fckbook you would note the vast numbers of the FJB team giving the pro Bidentards hell. It was exactly the opposite before the election when even mild criticism of Biden would get you banned for 30 days.
Posted by Snazzmeister
IHTFP
Member since Jan 2015
1145 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 10:18 pm to
Now that a democrat is in office, the technocrats don’t think “democracy is under attack” anymore. So, criticism is allowed now. Rest assured, if Trump or DeSantis finds their way into the west wing, the censorship will be ramped back up.
Posted by Right and Right
Member since Oct 2021
83 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 10:21 pm to
This isn't a hard thing to respond to and it's silly that the OP thinks there's anything useful in the poll because "criticism" is an AWFULLY wide fricking net.

If I got to my all of my friends call my wife a flaming whore count and all of her friends call me a guy who should dress better...........it would hardly be surprising if people were more "accepting" of the criticism leveled at me than the criticism leveled at her.

There critiques that Biden has to endure aren't in the same universe as what Trump put up with.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21768 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 10:57 pm to
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Do you have any the data to back up this claim?

100X more data than there is that masks work, that healthy people under 30 should be vaccinated, and anybody with natural immunity should be vaccinated.

JHFC the Left is full of clowns.
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