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Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:31 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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There is no reason to believe that considering illegal voters is largely a made up boogeyman, with little to no evidence to support it.
So it's impossible for it to happen?
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We've seen tens of thousands of ID-less people disenfranchised in each state or large municipality that has enacted voter ID laws.
Then they should get an ID. If they don't give a shite about getting an ID then they likely don't give a shite about voting either.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:32 pm to BamaAtl
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History and reality don't bear out your false perceptions.
Link?
Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:40 pm to TreyAnastasio
Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:47 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Link?
North Carolina. Wisconsin. etc.
We've covered this ground before.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:51 pm to TreyAnastasio
The silliness of those links.
From the first one:
Well, actually it isn't a lie seeing as people have been caught doing it.
Sorry if I can't take seriously any article that argues there isn't voter fraud when we don't have really any great way of measuring or catching it unless it is self reported.
From the first one:
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“The old notion that somehow there are all these impostors out there, people not eligible to vote that are voting — it’s a lie,” said Thomas E. Mann,
Well, actually it isn't a lie seeing as people have been caught doing it.
Sorry if I can't take seriously any article that argues there isn't voter fraud when we don't have really any great way of measuring or catching it unless it is self reported.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:53 pm to TreyAnastasio
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You missed the word regulated. Pretty easy legal argument that your militia of one is not regulated. Also a very easy legal argument that regulated extends to having to have an ID to purchase a firearm.
OK, so I am well regulated since I have to have a background check to purchase a firearm from a dealer, so I'm GTG.
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But lets not be obtuse enough to think that voter ID laws and gun laws are the same. No one ever died from voting.
There are several thousand Iraqis that disagree.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:55 pm to Phil2012
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Democrats
Modern day slave owners. That is all they are.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:55 pm to TreyAnastasio
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Nice strawman, but it has nothing to do with that
Sure it does. It's subtle racism. No wonder you people project such a dark vision.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:56 pm to TreyAnastasio
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And the ballots killed them?
yep. Elections have consequences
Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:58 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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No wonder you people project such a dark vision.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:59 pm to TreyAnastasio
Not one of those was useful, but thanks?
Posted on 2/23/17 at 3:01 pm to BamaAtl
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We've covered this ground before.
Yep, and you've never shown anything close to relevant.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 3:02 pm to TreyAnastasio
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link?
LINK
This has examples of a bunch of different types of fraud that have been found, for our discussion i'm not concerned with all of them right now. The specific quote I was laughing at deals with #2 in Virginia.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 2/23/17 at 3:03 pm to TreyAnastasio
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Why do you hate the constitution
I don't. Voter ID has nothing to do with it.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 3:06 pm to TreyAnastasio
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Those articles that say there is no problem with voter fraud in this country werent helpful?
Nope. Do better.
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Since you dont like what they say, are you saying they are fake news?
Might be time for another class on confirmation bias...
Posted on 2/23/17 at 3:07 pm to TreyAnastasio
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The 24th Amendment, ratified in 1964, abolished the use of the poll tax (or any other tax) as a pre-condition for voting in federal elections
Not a tax. Derp.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 3:08 pm to TreyAnastasio
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So your 10 cases mean we need a national voter id law that violates the constitution? 10 cases in millions upon millions of votes cast. A statistician would say those are statistically insignificant.
If only yall applied this logic to gun violence. I can find more than 10 cases of that.
Moving the goalposts. Nice try. I never once claimed these were all the cases. You asked for an example, I provided it. This was but one example to the specific quote I was laughing at.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 3:08 pm to TreyAnastasio
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The 24th Amendment, ratified in 1964, abolished the use of the poll tax (or any other tax) as a pre-condition for voting in federal elections
Good god, man. This argument is not only shite, it's old as hell.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 3:09 pm to TreyAnastasio
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The 24th Amendment, ratified in 1964, abolished the use of the poll tax (or any other tax) as a pre-condition for voting in federal elections
And you really wonder why I ignored your bullshite links?
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