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re: Democrats can get everything they want if they give Trump a wall.

Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:40 am to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:40 am to
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Is that a trade you really want to make???




I'm not happy about it but "everything they want" is just an extension of Obama/GOPe spending. Getting the wall will get a major issue off the table that has a pretty good potential of chipping away at the migrant crisis then with that off the table per se, the GOP can hold the line in future budget battles for more conservative budgets (lol).

Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89037 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:53 am to
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So you don't think the wall has any effect? Cmon man


I can’t speak for others, but while I’d like to see a wall built, if it isn’t, it’s not a dealbreaker.

Like a lot of others, I voted for Trump for two reasons: federal court/SC appointments and to keep Hillary out. All the rest is lagniappe.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:57 am to
It does, but he can't keep the government shut down forever.
I want the wall as much as anybody, but the democrats don't care about Americans at all. Trump does, and he will likely eventually have to cave. It will be how much of a fight that he gives that I will judge him on. Not whether or not the wall actually gets built.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 10:24 am to
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Not really. You think anyone is going to change their vote to fricking Warren Biden Puto or Kamala cmon man





It's about more than that. Voter turnout, donations, etc. To suggest that the wall is inconsequential is ridiculous.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
20073 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 10:50 am to
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for the measly costs of a wall.

I thought Mexico was going to pay for it?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134899 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 10:53 am to
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Democrats can get everything they want if they give Trump a wall.
"....and a can of Spam!" -Hawkeye Pierce, MASH, circa 1981
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 11:06 am to
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I thought Mexico was going to pay for it?


We really could get Mexico to pay for it but that's going to take the help of congress. Congress won't work with Trump.
Posted by 995webmaster
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
3780 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 11:09 am to
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Democrats can get everything they want if they give Trump a wall.


Nope. Senate Republicans are big pussies and won't stand up to Trump, but deep down, they're not really into The Wall, and so they won't approve trading anything of real value in order to get it.

So the Trumpster Fire has boxed himself in: he can't negotiate because his own party give him anything to trade.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 11:23 am to
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Yes. they actually have.


No. They actually have not.

The $25B/DACA deal fell apart because Stephen Miller didn't like it - Democrats were ready to vote for it until Trump declared he would veto it.

Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 11:52 am to
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I haven't heard this.


I won't vote for him again and most of my family , friends and co-workers who voted for him have told me if he caves, they aren't voting for him again. And I won't vote for him again if he gives too much to get it.

Republican voters are tired of the constant caving to Democrats.

The Republican establishment needs to learn a lesson. If they are going to act like Democrats , we might as well have Democrats run everything.

21 Trillion in debt , is proof enough that cowardly Republicans cave to Democrats constantly.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 12:09 pm to
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Democrats were ready to vote for it until Trump declared he would veto it.



There were also doubts it had the votes in the House.
Posted by Gnarkilleptic
Member since Jan 2019
63 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 12:45 pm to
We wouldn’t need congress to have two heads of state negotiate money changing hands.

Trump just can’t negotiate as evidenced by nothing he wanted getting done in two years and the absurd attrition rate of everyone he appointed

LINK

Mexico laughed and gave him the finger and y’all just moved the goal posts on how it would get paid for.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138878 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:57 pm to
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No. They actually have not
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The $25B/DACA deal
Right. That's the one. Dems refused to vote for it. End of story.
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