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re: Demand for more money to education?? Yeah, screw that.

Posted on 5/14/18 at 11:44 am to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65735 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 11:44 am to
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OK, it's also for the guys who had a lot of incompletes on their transcripts.....people with no grade point average


Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117551 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 11:49 am to
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What good is it to be able to use a laptop when you can't add 43+29 like these kids today?


This woman...

Mary Clyde Wintle

...always said:

"A really good teacher only needs two things. A black board and a piece of chalk."
Posted by WHS
walker LA.
Member since Feb 2006
3504 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 12:03 pm to
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And almost every expert on microeducational systems holds the belief that the Prussian model is an ineffective means of education.

Just because we use it doesn't mean its effective.


Dude I never said that using the Prussian model was the best. It is a fact that students are in smaller groups they learn better but here is the problem. At my school we have 30 teachers and 417 student. Please tell me how we can make smaller classrooms with that ratio without hiring more teachers??? In addition, I was making the point that in college they sit in desk, in rows for multiple classes a day.
Posted by purpngold
Member since Jun 2006
1761 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 12:04 pm to
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You think the test results hold anyone accountable?


Yep. Student performance on standardized assessments is 35% of a teacher's evaluation.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 12:08 pm to
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Dude I never said that using the Prussian model was the best. It is a fact that students are in smaller groups they learn better but here is the problem. At my school we have 30 teachers and 417 student. Please tell me how we can make smaller classrooms with that ratio without hiring more teachers???


Everyone seems uninterested in my posts but I'll tell you how.

Your schools are going to die. They are going to become a place that only the least among us use.

The internet is going to kill your schools just like it killed K-Mart and for the same reasons.

And, kids are going to VASTLY outperform your schools in the process.
Posted by Truthwatcher
Member since May 2018
20 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 12:13 pm to
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What good is it to be able to use a laptop when you can't add 43+29 like these kids today?


They are too busy learning calculus as a freshman to bother with the mental math you place a lot of value in
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34204 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 12:18 pm to
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Yep. Student performance on standardized assessments is 35% of a teacher's evaluation.


And?
Posted by Truthwatcher
Member since May 2018
20 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 12:22 pm to
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We spend far too much money supporting a system that is dedicated to political indoctrination and the memorization of facts instead of teaching people to think using reason, logic, and the Socratic method


True. One party demonizes science and the other attacks people for holding beliefs contrary to their own.......
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49397 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 12:24 pm to
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One party demonizes science and the other attacks people for holding beliefs contrary to their own.......


Both parties do both of these
Posted by Truthwatcher
Member since May 2018
20 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 12:25 pm to
Bigots everywhere
Posted by WHS
walker LA.
Member since Feb 2006
3504 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 12:31 pm to
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The internet is going to kill your schools just like it killed K-Mart and for the same reasons.



We are currently trying the internet thing and guess what? it dosnt work! we send students home to work on online classes on laptops and they are not doing the classes because there is no one to tell them to do it. Most of the laptops come back broken or destroyed and not one student in our school has completed one class online at home.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 12:32 pm to
Slide rules for everyone!

Amirite! Don’t need no damn calculators.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31643 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 12:33 pm to
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They are too busy learning calculus as a freshman to bother with the mental math you place a lot of value in


Lol, no.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 12:34 pm to
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We are currently trying the internet thing and guess what? it dosnt work!


You sound like Blockbuster circa 2005.

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we send students home to work on online classes on laptops and they are not doing the classes because there is no one to tell them to do it. Most of the laptops come back broken or destroyed and not one student in our school has completed one class online at home.


I didn't say your schools would survive by incorporating the internet. I said it was going to kill your schools.

And it absolutely IS going to kill them.

Sure. You'll still exist. But you'll exist almost entirely for the chaff.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31643 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 12:35 pm to
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True. One party demonizes science and the other attacks people for holding beliefs contrary to their own.......


Just can't help it can you? My thread has nothing to do with demonizing science and all that bullshite.

Way to muddy the thread with this bullshite.

This thread is about educational spending and the lack of rewards for it.

Go start you own dumbass thread about the bullshite you're peddling.

You're like a coworker of mine. He gets his political bullshite going no matter the topic. We could be talking about where to eat for lunch and he somehow turns it into some stupid arse Trump jab... It's annoying as frick and show how cultish you all are...

This post was edited on 5/14/18 at 12:38 pm
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 12:43 pm to
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I didn't say your schools would survive by incorporating the internet. I said it was going to kill your schools. And it absolutely IS going to kill them


There is a high school graduation here next week for several hundred students, that were students of a totally online education program for which their parents pay tuition, totally different from home schooling. It is my understanding the students do extremely well, and the percentage of students receiving college scholarships is much greater than the public schools.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 12:52 pm to
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There is a high school graduation here next week for several hundred students, that were students of a totally online education program for which their parents pay tuition, totally different from home schooling. It is my understanding the students do extremely well, and the percentage of students receiving college scholarships is much greater than the public schools.



And it's only going to get better.

And, it will reach a tipping point where the "concern" about socialization will be a total non-starter. There will be so many kids in these programs, they'll end up with a parallel social structure and eventually, THEIRS will be the primary social structure.

The chaff left in public schools will be the weirdos.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34204 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 12:53 pm to
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chaff

Was this the word of the day on your calendar?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 12:58 pm to
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Was this the word of the day on your calendar?

Its simply applicable

I use the words in my vocabulary.

Do you have a preferred word to apply
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34204 posts
Posted on 5/14/18 at 1:05 pm to
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Do you have a preferred word to apply

Chaff is fine; you just used it several times in this thread. It just made me wonder if it was new to you.
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